Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Sun, 01 Jun:
>> however if you want just to buy a quantity together, just to reduce  
>> cost, or even just to help friends, then i do not see a problem of
>> having no profit ...
>
> He has to  pay for MoC tests out of his pocket, not to mention running  
> around between MoC, MoD and god knows who else to be able to bring the  
> phones legally here, so there is much more here then just a "group  
> purchase" and he's taking a financial risk that others that are buying  
> along aren't taking.  He needs to be compensated for that in order to  

last I read, this meant something in the ballpark of a few hundred
thousand dollars to go through the israeli MOC and other bodies and
start a business. that would make sense if you were selling a major
gadget to Orange and Cellcloom, but we are talking about a very
expensive phone that doesn't even have EDGE, it's still a GPS with 2.5G
GSM, so I think it's a VERY small niche market of geek here, and should
not be attempted on the public at large just yet.

if I were a serious hacker (And I'm not) I would have bought one. At the
moment I'll be happy with a "plain old" iPhone 3.5G when they come out
later this month and than cracked in July :-)

(and yes, as usual my sig really is random out of a file of 1675
different ones... I don't trust the random generators on Debian anymore)

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