On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 05:31:04PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
>
> Actually, your example proves you wrong! Do you think that Google would have
> grown to the size they are if they kept the same technology they had 10 years
> ago? In those 10 years, Google adopted completely new technologies that they
> didn't have before - they devised new ways to manage clusters (which they
> didn't need when their cluster was just 50 machines), new filesystems, new
> ways to show interactive pages ("ajax"), new concepts for email (like the
> whopping 1 GB mail quota), new ideas and software for advertising, and much
> much more. Someobody had to direct the company to go in that direction, and
> not - say - to the Orace/IIS direction you mentioned.
Thank you, you just made my point. :-) Google succeded because they chose
a technology that could be expanded to do what they want. If they had chosen
Windows NT server, or VMS clusters they would have failed miserably.
If they had a second rate CTO, or were stuck in another technology, they
would never have grown to the size they are. How many "new idea" email
programs and companies have failed in the last 30 yeas?
> So it's silly to think that a company only decides technology issues when
> it is formed. Maybe what you are thinking about are these "dot com" startups,
> which were formed with some technology and indeed never lived long enough to
> switch or update their technlogy.
Lots of them were much older too, for example, IBM which nearly died when they
tried to drop their mainframe computers and get everyone to buy an AS400.
DEC when they tried to push the Alpha over the VAX. Silicon Graphics when
they tried to switch to Windows NT over UNIX, and Apple which joined with
IBM and switched to the PPC chip.
IBM had enough business to keep going and eventually recovered and a third
procduct, the RS/6000 took over while they still sell mainframes (Z/390)
and the AS400 is long gone.
DEC lost the battle of the MIPS. Silicon Graphics just faded and Apple
eventually became bankrupt and the board gave the company to Steve Jobs
and Next, before they crashed, and so on.
> > Both are certainly capble of doing the job with as much tailoring as Google
> > had to apply to what they do use, but when did Google reach the point they
> > could not have switched?
>
> Never. If Google were convinced today that Oracle/IIS had some clear benefits
> to them, they could switch to them, at least in new installations (which in
> an exponentially growing business, is almost the same as switching
> everything).
> Obviously, they didn't find Oracle or IIS of any benefit to them, because
> they could do the same - or more - with free software without having to pay
> royalties (paying royalties for hundreds of thousands of copies for a piece
> of software is damn expensive).
Again proves my point.
> I work in a company that has existed for over a hundred years. It still
> hasn't reached that point. We are still always on the lookout on how to
> change, what are the new technology trends, and how we can leverage new
> technlogy to become more efficient, before all our competition does it.
> If a company stops doing this, it will go out of business quickly.
What company is that?
> > How much equity are your really willing to give this stranger (i.e.
> > not a founder) to be CTO? 5%? 10%? any more and you risk diluting
> > your control and making your seed investor nervous.
> >
> > When the company gets to a "short exit", i.e. buyout in 2-3 years or
> > IPO, the 10% will be about 2%. If you go for the long term exit, which
> > someone is espousing in an article in Friday's Jerusalem Post (presented
> > as an op-ed, but really a free ad for his "late stage" investment fund),
> > that will be down to less than 1%.
>
> In 1999, when I was looking for a job, the "jive" from prospective employers
> I interviewed ( :-) ) was always the same - I would get a percentage of the
> company (usually at the order of 1%), and since it is public knowledge that
> every IPO is at least 1 billion dollars, even after dilution I was sitting
> on several million dollars, almost guranteed. Yeah, right...
Yes, I keep telling people who ask for business advice NOT to include a
stock option plan as anything but a speculative gift. People will no longer
fall for that "jive" as you put it.
Geoff.
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