I use gmail and like it, I do understand the issues Shlomi complained about and thus use also Thunderbird with gmail using as IMAP server, this way I have the best of both worlds.
-- Ori Idan On Jan 1, 2008 5:01 PM, Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Erez! > > On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Erez D wrote: > > shlomi, that was the important things ? > > > > what about the fact that google knows everything about you ? > > if you use it for buying things online, than google has your name, > adress, > > id etc ... > > and google knows also what you are searching for (if you search via > google) > > and usually knows what sites you surf to (torrent, porn, hackers etc > ...) > > via googleanalytics ... > > and where you were if you are using google-maps+gps ... > > and more .... > > > > i think that is more important than not being able to right click -> > reply > > ... > > > > Well, not only did you top-post, but you've diverted the discussion into a > completely different angle. Possibly a non-sequitur - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_%28logic%29>. > I didn't talk about the > privacy issues involved with Google in general and GMail.com in > particular. > As much as I'm aware of this issue, I didn't seem to suffer from it so far > (as Nadav mentioned) and it is global to all popular web-services in the > WWW-oriented world. One can take some client-side measures to mitigate > them, > but I didn't bother so far. > > What I did talk about were usability problems in GMail.com, which cause me > to > still prefer KMail. These affect my day to day use of email, and bother me > or > make me more content in using the program or service. > > If you want to discuss the Google.com privacy issues feel free to do so, > but I > won't take any further part in it. These privacy issues don't affect the > usability of the email service I'm using so I'll keep it as that. > > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish > > > > > erez.. > > > > On Jan 1, 2008 1:35 PM, Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Monday 31 December 2007, Danny Lieberman wrote: > > > > Ira > > > > Why is gmail annoying you? I can't believe you want to host your > own > > > > > > mail > > > > > > > server - I stopped doing that a year ago and I use Google apps - > simply > > > > because the spam filtering is almost perfect and I don't have to > hassle > > > > with SA and the rest of the ball of wax. > > > > > > Well, I cannot speak for Ira, but I blogged about the problems that > *I* > > > found > > > in gmail here: > > > > > > http://shlomif.livejournal.com/46955.html > > > > > > This is why I still prefer using KMail on my local machine instead. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Shlomi Fish > > > > > > > br > > > > Danny > > > > > > > > On 12/31/07, Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Gmail is starting to annoy me and I'm contemplating folding back > to > > > > > > rely > > > > > > > > on my own system only. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a better > > > > > > system > > > > > > > > than IMP4, maybe one that supports Hebrew better, and maybe has > some > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the cool AJAX gadgetry I'm used to from Gmail? > > > > > > > > > > IMP4 is not a bad proggy, I'm just wondering if there's something > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > out there that I haven't tried or heard of yet, and HAS BEEN > TESTED > > > > > by the esteemed users of this group :-) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Ira. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Reporting Live > > > > > Ira Abramov > > > > > http://ira.abramov.org/email/ > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================= > > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Homepage: http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > > > > > I'm not an actor - I just play one on T.V. > > > > > > ================================================================= > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Homepage: http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > I'm not an actor - I just play one on T.V. > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- ספרים וסיפורים שכתבתי: http://www.thestories.org
