On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 02:50:50PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > I bought some space in bluehost.com (yeah, their $7 for 300GB disk > space, 3TB bandwidth, yada yada yada) and I planned to put some of my > video clips (FLV format) at bluehost while my blog stays here at my > house..
I really can't comment on this company in particular, but people on other lists I'm on routinely complain that offers like these simply don't exist in the real world. If you carefully read the terms and conditions, you find that they can and will terminate your service if you actually approach the limits they claim you have. It's done in such a way that what they do is legal in the U.S. and not considered false advertisement, however what you expect never really happens. This may be better than some companies, because if they cut you off, you are out the $7 or maybe $84 for an entire year's commitment, but don't wake up to find a $600 bill for last month's "overages", which has happened to some people using other hosting companies. To skip forward, NetVision's $100 a month package is relatively cheap for what they are offering and will actually provide. > > All went well, with 1 "tiny" problem: lets look at a snip of the > traceroute from my house to bluehost: > > 4 ge9-0.gw1.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.209) 38.486 ms > ge0-1.gw2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.212) 39.195 ms > ge9-0.gw1.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.209) 40.675 ms > 5 pos5-4.brdr1.nyc.nv.net.il (212.143.12.35) 253.237 ms > pos1-0.brdr1.nyc.nv.net.il (212.143.12.13) 247.734 ms > pos5-4.brdr1.nyc.nv.net.il (212.143.12.35) 255.950 ms > 6 Gigabitethernet4-0.GW12.NYC4.ALTER.NET (157.130.25.37) 450.531 ms > 435.170 ms 437.170 ms > > hmm, 435 ms at Gigabitethernet4-0.GW12.NYC4.ALTER.NET, thats a no-no > for video streaming, whether it's in Flash video using HTTP or using > Macromedia streaming server. I don't know if it really matters, because that's about average. Pinging www.bluehost.com from my house gave me an average ping time of 412ms, which is a one way time of about 206ms. Too slow for VoIP and videoconferencing, but not too bad for streaming video. This was at 15:30, at 20:00, Friday or Saturday, it's probably twice to three times that. :-( > So I called and asked about their business packages for shared hosting > (I only need to host the file, and call it via http). Netvision, as > always when it comes to price, as definately falling into the price of > "surprising". For a VPS with 128MB RAM and 5GB Space you'll be paying > EACH month... a $100!! I fell from my chair when I heard this offer! As I said, for Israeli service, that's about right. Real, honest performance from the U.S. is not much cheaper. > I could disconnect from Netivision within a minute, but my problem is > that lots of my readers and viewers are coming from Israel and they > are connected to Netvision, which means that they will have a problem > to watch any video clip without a severe buffering problems. > Any suggestions? tips? At one time HOT offered me 4mbits per second UPLOAD, I don't know if they actually deliver it or the cost. I'm afraid to ask as I can't afford it, but would take it in an instant. :-) That would be more than enough if you can live with HOT's and NetVision's outages. They are not "five nines" (99.999%) reliable, For example, they were down for a while today. I have no way of knowing who was actually down, HOT, Netvision, or the bridge between them. It does not matter to me, I can live with the interruptions and as far as I am concerned, down is down, no matter who or why. The other option is to go to a different approach. I was looking into a "push" technology where you pick a program or subscribe to a "channel" and then it is delivered to your computer in the background. The cheap way of doing it is BitTorrent. Someone else had the same idea and actually went beyond the proof of concept stage. It used to be called the "Democracy Player" and now it is called Miro. http://www.getmiro.com/ Depending upon whom you are trying to reach and with what, then this may be exactly what you need. If you do explore the 4m option, please let me know how much it costs. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
