Hi Leonid,
I did a project at a large well-known startup in Tel Aviv recently using
ClearCase/Quest, Ant and CruiseControl to set up automated builds for one
of the client's products. They had also been using SVN. This is what I
learned about ClearCase and SVN:
ClearCase has a very long learning curve for administrators. Developers
usually learn a few set procedures for using what the administrators set
up for them but the developers themselves rarely really understand what
ClearCase does.
We had no performance problems with ClearCase.
IBM appears to have no technical support for ClearCase, despite whatever
they might say.
From my experience working with CVS at Tivoli and ClearCase recently I
can tell you that CVS and SVN are fine solutions for up to about 30
developers working in one location. Once you go above that number there
begin to be project management issues such as the need to lock down
branches, define releases and other build types, and impose development
discipline. This is where SVN and CVS fail miserably and ClearCase
suddenly becomes advantageous. This is also the point (30+ developers)
where the group can usually afford to have one dedicated person who is the
ClearCase/Quest administrator. ClearCase has a very rich and usefull
feature set. It is scriptable. It is heavy. The UCM additon is very good.
If you do not have at least 30 developers then the admin overhead that
ClearCase requires will be very expensive for you in relation to the
advantages that it offers.
Regards,
- yba
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Leonid Podolny wrote:
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:22:38 +0200
From: Leonid Podolny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: [OT] SVN commercial support
Hi,
My employer considers switching CM (i.e. "source control") system. The
current favorite in the race is ClearCase. Previously, at my previous
place of work, we worked with Subversion, and it was simply amazing --
light, simple, yet powerful. (And infinitely cheaper, of course.)
The basic reasoning behind choosing ClearCase is simple -- the
management needs someone to provide us with support and help us in
case of technical difficulties. So basically I am looking for some
company that will be able to provide us with the technical support for
SVN.
I think that another reason behind ClearCase is that they have actual
sales people. So it would be nice if that company would be able to
send someone with nice PowerPoint presentations, that will be able to
explain to VPR&D how vastly superior SVN is, compared to any other
offering.
Any suggestions or recommendations?
Thanks,
=================================================================
To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command
echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
EE 77 7F 30 4A 64 2E C5 83 5F E7 49 A6 82 29 BA ~. .~ Tk Open Systems
=}------------------------------------------------ooO--U--Ooo------------{=
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il -
=================================================================
To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command
echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
