Quoting Gadi Cohen, from the post of Sun, 12 Aug:
> I take it MPLS is "without a dialer" ?  I can't believe it's such a big
> deal here to change :)  I must admit a week went by with nothing

It's a big issue because it takes away the power from the ISP and leaves
it with the ADSL/cable provider. they can't shape your traffic or limit
you and meter you as much as they'd like without a pptp connection. I
actually pay a monthly $15 to have it, beyong the regular cost of the
012 bill. But I gain stability and a "fixed" IP.

and with the lower overhead, it's very helpful for torrents :-)

> well, since both my physical PCs are running Linux it's actually quite
> nice to not have my laptop dependent on my other PC anymore for routing,

Well, my linux is a mail and file server (with MPLS, even if there is
downtime, I usually get the same IP again because like DHCP it keeps the
lease, I have fixed IP :-)

Since one machine is always on anyway, it's also the firewall and
everyone connects through it. makes life simpler if you ask me. I also
do the traffic shaping there so all the machines get priority of Skype
over torrents, etc.

> windows virtual pc in vmware, but I'm quite happy for both the physical
> linux boxes to have their own connection and handle their own firewall
> with masquerading.

has plusses and minuses...

> > well, I think it's worth getting another 80-100 NIS card for that on the
> > one hand, but on the other hand, it's very much doable with plain
> > IPTABLES. I have not used shorewall yet.
> >   
> well, yes, that would easily solve my problems, but it's a bit annoying
> on principle... because aside from the firewall I already have the whole
> idea working great by just putting my one card on two different
> subnets.

lucky it doesn't work like that in Israel, but in the US I saw that the
outer subnet of 10./8 was actually shared among all the clients in the
neighbourhood of the cable company (well, 8 years ago it was) and you
could actually find people running LAN parties and webservers and not
just using it for PPTP, so I would not connect that interface to a
non-firewalled machine... At least in Israel it doesn't work that way.

> But I seem to recall that shorewall's lack of support is based
> on iptables limitations -- on dealing with aliases interfaces.

nope. it's been supported as far back as ipchains and probably before.
It's a little trickier with multiple IP on a single interface, but not
with aliased interfaces.


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