On Sunday August 12 2007, Amos Shapira wrote:
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> Let's try to get back to the origins of all this problem, and I'm saying in
> advance that I might have missed something and got it wrong so you are
> welcome to correct me (and I'm a long way away so don't threaten me with "I
> know where you live" :).
>
> Linux-IL USED to be accessible through three addresses: @iglu.org.il,
> @linux.org.il and @cs.huji.ac.il (the "real" one).
True as fixed. iglu.org.il and linux.org.il share an MX, so I will refer to 
them as one for the matter of discussion.

> For some reason (people too lazy to change over?) the list managers decided
> to keep all three address instead of unifying them to one ("
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]" is the natural one, IMHO).
False. The aliases on iglu.org.il were added as a service to the public. The 
topic of unifying the list addresses was brought up before a few years ago 
and list subscribers voted against it. I think that if the list is hosted on 
huji, the most natural address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Following that, people who replied through the address from which they were
> not subscribed got bounced.
False. It did not matter to which address the message was sent.

> So a while ago the list managers dropped the subscription requirements and
> allowed non-member posts.
False. Non-member posting were never allowed, it has to go through the process 
of moderator approval.

> In order to counter spam they added anti-spam filtering to the list.
True.

> That anti-spam filtering broke by e-mails from @iglu so now @iglu is out
> and people are forced to post through @cs.huji anyway.
False. See my reply to Ira. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Questions:
>
> 1. What's the matter with @linux.org.il? Is it still used?
The linux.org.il admin (Shlomi Fish) was asked to deactivate the aliases and 
looks like the mail coming to them is devnulled. This is totally out of 
control of list managers.

> 2. Maybe the managers can reconsider limiting posts to list members again
> and get rid of these anti-spam measures, now that all subscribers are
> required to e-mail through the @cs.huji address?
Totally missing the point, see above.

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Michael Vasiliev

"I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' 
to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb.  Thank you."
                        (By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)

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