On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:23:36 +0300 Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 05 April 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I'm using a Dell Inspiron 6400 lappy with Fedora Core 6. At the time I > > bought it, one HAD to purchase Windowx XP with it, but now I think > > that you have a choice of Vista or some Linux distro, I don't know > > which. I don't think that any lappy today comes without Vista. > > Some you can still get with XP. Also, you can have a look at MSI sold by ivory, they sell their laptops with no OS (of course you can buy M$ for oem prices, and I think now they advertise the laptop price without the OS) I don't know about linux capability, I can get access to a recent one to see how ubuntu live cd or knopix run on it if there is interest. I think that at least most of them use nvidia though which I seem to recall needs the proprietary driver for 3d but I'm not sure (my current 4 year old lappy has a ati rage mobility so ...) > > OK. > > > > 10. All hardware works with open source drivers, at least on Linux. > > > FreeBSD would be a big plus. > > > > I haven't had a chance to test the bluetooth, and the wifi/video card > > may need closed source drivers. I don't understand why you are so > > uptight about using open source drivers when you plan on dualbooting > > with Windows. Should I remind you that windows is not open source? > > > > Windows is not open-source. I hate its usability, power and robustness, but I > guess I can still use it under VMware. Opera[1], VMware Workstation, Flash, > etc. are also not open source, but they're user-land applications and > high-quality to some extent. And they don't interfere with my rest of the > work in my otherwise 100% free software Linux distribution. > > However, proprietary drivers in Linux are Evil with a capital E. See: > > http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2006/08/why_binaryonly_linux_kernel_mo.html > > http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html > > http://www.petitiononline.com/nvfoss/petition.html (a petition I started). > Can't comment about these although at least in the field of graphic cards I can understand the manufacturers. > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish > > [1] - Just for the record, I dislike using Opera, find it an inferior browser > in comparison to Konqueror and Firefox, and just use it to test my web-sites, > in order to have yet-another browser to test with. Even if it was superior, I > wouldn't have used it because it's not open-source. > I don't use Konqueror since I don't like kde (both it and gnome have the hobby of trying to take over the world by flooding it with daemons). Opera usually misbehaves and firefox/iceweasel/swiftfox (which is the least worse solution I found since most sites don't work well with w3m and similar) hog the memory like a starved rino (150MB min with the occasional habit of going to over 600MB). Not that I can say that explorer is any better, I'm still waiting for a decent browser to appear. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Homepage: http://www.shlomifish.org/ > > If it's not in my E-mail it doesn't happen. And if my E-mail is saying > one thing, and everything else says something else - E-mail will conquer. > -- An Israeli Linuxer > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
