On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 06:42:52PM +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > Residential (non-commercial-grade) ADSL/cable service and a "cheap router" > would be enough to give you valid connectivity (indistinguishable from POTS, > for that matter) to an Israeli VoIP provider (e.g. Bezeqint). 30ms ping > roundtrip is unnoticeable in a voice conversation.
I'm sorry I did not make myself clear. It's VoIP to the U.S. > If they're insisting on a Committed Information Rate, they'd be better > talking to one of the large ISPs. It'll be a business-grade connection, > which involves entirely different pricing schemes -- surely not worth it for > casual phone-call savings (by using a US-based VoIP carrier such as Vonage). No, however they think they can do without it. Often when they are connected to a VPN in the background to run a web based application, or some sort of Windows based remote access. > Which adds around 10ms, which is insignificant compared to the 180ms minimal > roundtrip to the US. You can spare the tunnel by getting dialer-less > connection (dubbed "MPLS") from a cable ISP. MLPS is hard to get, and cable has it's own latency problems. 10ms is insignificant but if it's the difference between 150 and 160ms, it matters, as that is around the point where it becomes a problem. > We're talking with our employees who are situated in Japan over email, Skype > and just regular international calls regularly and it's working pretty well > for us. Why "can't get their work done"? Becuase they were sold a regular aDSL connection to provide web access, some sort of VPN, and POTS quality voice to the U.S. Some of them are doing technical support, where the call goes to the company and then is rerouted to them over VoIP. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
