On Nov 30, 11:50, Oded Arbel wrote:
} Subject: Re: To: Ira / Warning: could not send message for past 10 hours (
> On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 22:36 +0200, Peter wrote:
> > >> .. while talking to kelly.abramov.org.:
> > >>>>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> <<< 451 ;z; Dynamic IP pool blocked due to zombie infestation. See
> > >> http://rbl.eonspace.net/?rblip=192.114.44.226/21 for details
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Deferred: 451 ;z; Dynamic IP pool blocked due to
> > >> zombie infestation. See http://rbl.eonspace.net/?rblip=192.114.44.226/21
> > >> for details
> > >
>
> > One small nitpick: Some dolt blocked an IP block that is indeed zombied,
> > but in fact it is two IP blocks. Both are in Bulgaria, and both are
> > infested (you should see my webserver's log). BUT I am not in Bulgaria
> > and I have an IP that is sandwiched between the Bulgarians, from Actcom.
> > And I have no zombie here (at least not in the computer).
>
> I'm not sure if you are referring to the above quoted rejection, or to
> something else, but the block 192.114.44.226/21 from which you tried to
> send e-mail to Ira Abramov is indeed Actcom dial-up pool, which
> rbl.eonspace.net blocks only this specific pool and nothing else (no
> Bulgarians here).
If you mean 192.114.40.0/21 (the /21 block which 192.114.44.226
belongs to), the 192.114.44.0/24 range is indeed dynamic dialup
(modem/ADSL). Most of the other IPs in this /21 are not dialup, so if
somebody blocked the whole /21 it was according to a bad guess.
Anyone that sends mail directly from his link needs a static IP,
which PTR which is equal to his domain (the regular PTR
something.broadband.actcom.net.il is blocked almost anywhere due to the
"broadband" string and/or due to the IP in the "something" part).
> > So
> > trigger-happy blacklisters are not exactly my favorite hereoes. Never
> > were. Who knows how many people do not get my email because of such
> > things.
If a user that needs direct mailing happens to have a blocked IP,
we can just replace it (providing that it is a static IP). But EVERY
IP has a very big chance to be BLOCKED SOMEWHERE (this can be even
stated "every IP is blocked in really many places").
Amir
> I am personally not very happy with the situation where RBLs (mine
> included) *need* to block dynamic IPs. I'm well aware that many people
> (and many on this list) are running their own MTAs - and quite
> legitimately - on their dynamic dial-up IP. Unfortunately, there is
> simply no way to block zombies while not blocking such kosher setups,
> and for that reason all MTAs support the option of relaying all outgoing
> SMTP traffic through an ISP mail server, that will deliver your e-mail
> correctly - because you already pay your ISP for this service. Not
> taking advantage of a service you pay for and then complaining that you
> get blocked is not, IMHO, a valid stance.
>
> --
> Oded
> ::..
> Freshly reinstalled computers are a bit like a pair of new shoes -
> you're happy that you've finally got a new pair, but they're awkward to
> use for a little while.
>
>
>
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