Hello Michael,

I don't understand why you are writing this to us and not to gentoo
developers. You should discuss this on the bug track system, so there
will be an audit trail for this.

You can always have a local overlay for whatever you want. But this is
not the right solution. Anyway, the whole point of providing many
distributions is that the software developer should not be bothered by
each distribution in order to make a package.

The fact that Gentoo developers screw this and other packages should
be discuss on their court.

Best Regards,
Alon Bar-Lev.

On 8/27/06, Michael Vasiliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It has come to my attention (since I am CC-d on that particular bug) that
Gentoo treeclean team is about to remove hspell from main Gentoo portage
tree. I've responded immediately to team lead, Alec Warner, about it, and
we're discussing it in private mail ever since. He suggests that we have a
local overlay of hspell and packages that need hspell support, or use
http://gentoo-sunrise.org
My response was on the inconvenience of such "solution", due to the fact that
hspell support is already present in KDE and commented-out in Gentoo version
of it for political/bureaucratic reasons. Other than maintaining our own
overlay, the easiest and most straightforward way would be to add a recent
version of hspell and revert the hspell-remove patch.
Of course, there comes the real problem: no Gentoo developer is willing to
watch the package and update the portage tree CVS if needed.

I am against mass-mailing Alec Warner as of that moment, please read on:

A little bit of background:

Hspell was originally imported at version 0.4 in April 2003 and maintained by
Tal Peer and Alex Weber. They are since then retired as Gentoo developers and
currently there is noone to act as a maintainer (which in that particular case
is basically a liason between upstream developers and the CVS interface ;).

In January 2005, Alon Bar-Lev submitted a new ebuild for the version 0.9
which, with minor fixes by yours truly, was never merged.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77751

12 months later, in December 2005, Gentoo KDE team removed hspell support from
KDE due to incompatibility with the version in portage tree (0.7), the
version requred was 0.8, while the version available on official site was
0.9.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114161

Currently, without packages that depend on hspell, the treeclean team has
picked on the orphaned package and marked it pending removal on September 26.

I know that there is a lab of Gentoo in Haifa University (using their own
overlay when it comes to hspell and KDE). Honestly, I'm a bit tired of Gentoo
way of breaking^Wrunning things, and Debian seems more and more appealing
every day. Let's establish how many Gentoo users are there that hspell is
important to them.

--
Sincerely Yours,
Michael Vasiliev
Linux-IL moderator

"I mean, if 10 years from now, when you are doing something quick and dirty,
you suddenly visualize that I am looking over your shoulders and say to
yourself: 'Dijkstra would not have liked this', well that would be enough
immortality for me."
                        -- Edsger Wybe Dijkstra


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