On Tue, Jul 25, 2006, Micha Feigin wrote about "Re: Israel map site that work 
with firefox?":
> > > http://www.freemap.co.il/
> > > Works with firefox, and what's more, it runs FOSS web mapping
> > > software.
> > 
> > It might run FOSS and it's even community powered, but the map information
> > itself is closed and will be used in the future for commercial use by the
> > owner of the site:
> > http://freemap.co.il/forum/viewtopic.php?t=176
> > 
> > /me wonders whether it's time to start a www.really-free-map.org.il site :)
> 
> Mapping software is easy, the problem is that creating map information is
> VERY expensive

Looking at this site, it appears that they believe that they can get this
map information for free, by utilizing data sent in by many volunteers. Is
this doable? I have no idea. The site claims impressive statistics (177
towns, 4593 streets, 6613 km of roads), but I didn't really try it out myself.

But the "moral" question is, why should these volunteers help this site
build its database, when the site doesn't gurantee that it will remain free?
A conspiracy-theorist might even say that a minute after the map is complete,
the site can start charging money for its services... An historian might say
that he doesn't know what this site will do, but other sites are known to
have done this: build a large database during free operations, and then
suddenly switching to a paid subscription, and forcing the users to pay to
access the database that they helped build; For just one example, see
CDDB [1]. There's even an Israeli example I know of, but will not mention
to avoid a flame war.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDDB


If this site's apparent (according to my reading) assumption that a community
of volunteers can map the whole country is valid (e.g., each walking around
his neighborhood with a GPS and mapping it), then I don't see any reason why
a "www.really-free-map.org.il" like was suggested about couldn't work. Like
you admitted, the mapping software and hosting isn't a very big obstacle.

I wonder if there is any precedent in the world for that. After all, there's
nothing specific to Israel in this idea; Are there free maps of parts of
the US, Europe, and so on, done by a community of volunteers?

Oh, and for anyone thinking of undertaking such a project: please, before
you start, contact the "censura" and ask for guidelines on areas which must
not be mapped: I'd hate to see Hizballah choosing its targets from our free
map...

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