On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 10:54 +0300, Ira Abramov wrote:
> Quoting Omer Zak, from the post of Sat, 08 Oct:
> > Today I upgraded my laptop from Debian Sarge to Debian Etch.
>
> I warned you against it, didn't I? Etch isfor developpers and will give
> you many dependency headaches.
Yes, you warned me.
I neglected to ask for clarification previously, so I'll ask now. I was
under the impression that Debian Unstable is for developers, as it has
no guarantees about the quality of packages. However, Debian Testing is
meant for packages, which were tested and are supposed to be stable.
This was the situation for Debian Sarge, before it was turned into
stable. Are the roles of Unstable and Testing reversed for Etch?
> > After editing the /etc/apt/sources.list file, I used:
> > apt-get update
> > apt-get dist-upgrade
> > And then I ran few upgrade rounds through aptitude.
>
> what do you mean by that? didn't the dist-upgrade work smooth?
For most of the part, it was smooth. But some packages were problematic
as I wrote in the rest of my message. I used aptitude to try again,
work around, uninstall, cheat, lie or bribe, as needed.
> > I encountered the following problems:
> >
> > 1. The udev package could not be upgraded, because the recent version
> > depends upon kernel version >= 2.6.13, and I have kernel version 2.6.8.
>
> yes, a known problem. I don't know why they did that, I have the same
> problem in sid (unstable)
My guess is that something changed in the kernel support of udev, which
broke earlier versions of udev.
> > 2. Keyboard configuration of Gnome was lost and I had to reconfigure it
> > to recognize Hebrew keyboard (and cause leftshift+rightshift key
>
> this is because of XF86 -> xorg not taking all the keyboard modes along
> with it. not Gnome's fault. the old and new configs are still in
> /etc/X11. you can cut and paste manually but I suspect that's what
> caused the mess in the first place. To have the keyboard modes survive
> upgrades, enter them with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
The important message which I got is that this loss is not supposed to
be universal through all packages, which were upgraded from Sarge to
Etch. However I'll have to check individually other configuration
tweaks which I made on the laptop, if any - especially USB flash memory
device handling.
> well, apt-listbugs is not an old favourite of mine, as I'm not a "hard
> core" debian developper, but here are a few ideas:
>
> 1. work without it, I think most Debian unstable users do fine without
> it.
>
> 2. use it in xterm (why not?) or scroll back with shift-PgUp at the
> console.
If one of the packages on the path X11:Gnome:Gnome-Terminal gets
upgraded, then I risk loss of my terminal connectivity. So I prefer to
play it safe by upgrading only from console.
> Happy new year and Happy new distro :)
Ditto.
--- Omer
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