Hi Robert, On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 04:42:18PM +0000, Robert Wallner wrote: > Hi all > > The Kodix project started around 2001, originally as a bunch of > replacement and add-on packages for RedHad systems of those times (6.2 > iirc). With time, the number of packages increased continously, until > one day, the system was self supporting (the whole system could be > installed, and compiled from within itself). > > The following years, we used it as our 'personal do it yourself > distro', as desktops, production servers, etc. Some people joined the > project, some left, some are just using it as plain users, others use > it for their jobs, dig into it and make patches. > > With time, we refined the project mission and ideals (FREE as in > freedom), removed all non-free or problematic packages, started to > think more about stability and security, began testing the FreeBSD > kernel, etc..
That's all nice, but ... > > We now reached a point of critical mass (of work). We hardly manage to > maintain all the things that have to be done (update packages, follow > security advisories, etc). We don't have even time to write the TODO, > or write some explanations on the website. > > So we really need volunteers to join the project. You don't have to be > a programmer or *nix geek, to help, there are a lot of tasks to be > done. Every bit of help is greatly appreciated. > > PS. If you're asking yourself 'why should I bother with yet another > crappy half-working anonymous distro, why not just use > debian/ubuntu/whatever', then you're probably right, just keep using > your favorite os, and ignore this post :) I guess you sent this email because you do want to interest potential developers. To do this you must tell us positive reasons to be interested - saying this is your pet project and that you love it so much isn't very convincing. Also, Having a web site that its front page says "Not Found, The requested resource was not found." isn't very encouraging. > > PS2: You can take a peek at the (sligtly unupdated) subversion > repository: http://kodix.org/svn/viewcvs.py/kodix/trunk/ This is also not very helpful. You can't get, using this link, an overview of kodix in a few minutes. Will you at least point us to any page saying what's different/better about kodix? Also why do you think it can survive? Why do you think potential developers should invest their time in it and not some other, probably more helpful, thing? Debian also does what you described above - think about stability and security, have ports to other kernels, including *bsd ones and also others, etc. It has around a thousand volunteering developers, and still has a hard time doing what it's doing, getting releases out usually a year later than hoped. Why should people help you and not them? I can also recommend random interesting distributions. One of the most interesting ones I saw recently was gobolinux - go read a few minutes about it, it does have interesting ideas. I am personally a debian user for many years, and currently have no intentions to move, but if I wanted to play with a pet project, gobolinux would have much higher chances to get me than kodix. Can you convince me otherwise? My gut feeling says the only reason for you or anyone else to go and spend a lot of time on kodix is that you can't easily see all the effort invested until today going to be wasted and thrown away. Well, this isn't a good enough reason. Maybe it's sad, maybe it's good enough for you, but not for most other people. There are many projects that died a slow and sad death, throwing to the trash thousands of human years. That's how things are. To fix that, the right thing isn't to help it keep staying alive, but to take the good ideas from it and port them to one of the biggest ones, that do have good chances to survive. Only if you have radical ideas that you do not think can be ported to an existing big project, it probably has the right to exist. I must say this will usually, these days, should be radical enough as to not be unix-like. IMHO. There are of course plenty of thouse, too - e.g. look at tunes.org, http://paulgraham.com/popular.html, to name two. -- Didi ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
