On Monday 26 September 2005 10:26, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > connected 24x7 and effectively do have a static IP, the only price I see > is the cost of administration, not of the address itself. So I guess it > should be low (or zero) and one-time. Am I far from the truth?
The price involves money payed to RIPE for the IP blocks needed in order to be able to provide so many clients with permanent IPs. Actually, in management overhead, it has some advantages, at least security wise, since hunting down an abusive client becomes very straight forward, without any need to search radius logs for accounting START/STOP. However, if you come to divide how much money is payed for an IP in a /16 block, which all the big ISPs use (each has a few), you'll probably find that it amounts next to nothing compared to what they charge customers for. However the Internet in Israel is cheap compared to the large world outside, and the Israeli are a tough crowd to serve, as they want everything, while they are not willing to pay anything. So, using the pretense that a permanent IP belongs to a VIP class of service (business or whatever) is a economical model that allows the ISPs to charge a price that can actually allow them to earn something from the private sector. Just to sum up, in general I think Israelis are shitty customers, in all respects, and while the "no one will fuck me over" slogan was good at first, and taught a lesson to people trying to break our backs, later on, like everything else here, it got twisted and taken too far away, to a place where we pirate everything (software, music, films), and are unable to pay a price for a service. The ISPs cut throat competition for the basic ADSL/Cable packages, and the ridiculous price they charge for them is just a testimony of how powerful the Israeli customer has become. But, will driving the ISPs into bankruptcy, or worse, keeping their income so low that they cannot advance and offer any new services and improvements, will that serve us as customers in the end ? I believe a good deal is based on the fact that after provider and customer shaked hands, both are content with the result. That is not the reality today. --Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP: http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]