On Wednesday 03 August 2005 18:54, Oron Peled wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 August 2005 16:36, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> > ... focusing on the low market salaries for Linux people in Israel.
> >
> > ... while wanting the higher salaries that Microsoft technology
> > programers get paid ...
>
> Did I understand it corrrectly? Do you claim MS-sepecialists cost
> more than their Linux counterparts?
>
> If your "devil-advocacy" wasn't a joke and you can back it up
> with some data, than it can be a wonderfull item in
> HaMakor "Get the facts" campaign.
>
> One of the common FUD claims we hear is: "... But Linux maintenance
> is more expensive because Linux people cost more".
>
> BTW: My normal reply is that those people cost more because
>      (on the average) they know more. If you'll get a
>      *realy good* windows admin -- he also won't work for the
>      dirt cheap salaries the low level MS-crowd work for.

There are several factors in play here:

1. As you said Linux sys-admins, on the average cost more than their 
MS-centric counterparts, but on the other hand genreally know more.

2. It was shown that Linux admins can on average take care of much more 
workstations than Windows sys-admins.

3. Low-maintenance X-Terminals may reduce the administration overhead even 
further. Similar solutions now exist for Windows, though, even though they 
also tend to incur per-user software licensing fees (which are not a big deal 
for long-term TCO)

4. One of my friend works in a software development house who has an NT server 
farm that needs to have close to 100% uptime and operationality. Needless to 
say, they have top-of-the-class admins, and also make use of scripting, the 
command line, command automation, etc. a lot. Most NT sys admins don't know 
anything about the NT command line, much less about scripting and automation.

I recall hearing about an incident that a mail server running on an NT (in a 
different company) was flooded with messages containing viruses. (all of the 
same characterists) The local admin had no idea how to eliminate them. What 
they eventually did was copy the mailbox file to a UNIX server, where the 
UNIX admin wrote a simple script to filter out the bad E-mail messages, and 
after that, they copied the mailbox back to the Windows box.

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I should note that I'd also like to know from where GSM has his data regarding 
the salaries of Windows and Linux specialists. (not necessary admins).

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

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