On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 02:03:41PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2005, Diego Iastrubni wrote about "Re: Hebrew Support in > Linux": > > Nadav, whats wrong with the approach of Mandrake/Mandriva? You choose the > > language at the install and you have hebrew all the way to your desktop > > (even > > booting messages are in hebrew). > > I have to admit I haven't seen a Mandrake installation in several years > (most people I know chose Fedora or Debian), so maybe I was completely > wrong. When you choose "Hebrew" during installation, does it also install > relevant packages like a Hebrew spell-checker, Hebrew "language pack" for > OpenOffice and Mozilla, Hebrew fonts, and so on? When you run a Hebrew > installation, do most of the strings you see (assuming you don't use the > command line) are in Hebrew, or are still many of the applications and > documentation in English only? > If the answer to all these questions is positive, then perhaps we're much > farther along than I guessed. If they are negative, then we're on the right > track but not quite at the end of the path.
It's been a while since I last played with Mandrake's installer, but even in 2001, when you marked packages as dependent on locales-xx and selected the language (country(?)) xx at install time, that package would be selected by default. > > > Also Debian (-> ubuntu) have this feature. > > I haven't seen anything even close in Debian (you can apt-get specific Hebrew > packages, but you have to know what to install and do it yourself), so > perhaps this is Ubuntu specific, or I haven't looked at Debian recently > enough. And since I have not actually seen Ubuntu running, I cannot comment > on this. There are some Hebrew/Israeli specific improvements that are still not in Debian. However the Debian installer has a basic Hebrew translation as well as a useful infrastructure for locale-specific probes and packages. > > By the way, there's a reason my wishlist talked about having Hebrew in a > *popular* distribution. People choose a distribution based on many factors; > Some like a distribution they've grown used to. Others use the distribution > that their school or company told them to use. Still others prefer a specific > distribution because of a certain feature. Therefore, if, say, Fedora and > Debian are the most popular distributions in the world (and I'm not even > sure this is true), then why should Hebrew support be good only on Ubuntu > and Mandrake? And this is even more true when you consider special-purpose > Hebrew distributions like Kazit and Kinneret, which are great but are not > the general-purpose distributions that most people currently look for. Actually: if Medora and Febian are the most popular distors (and I'm sure it's not true), then they should have a large users base to generate the demand and provide the incentive for Hebrew localization. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | best ICQ# 16849755 | | friend ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
