ביום שני, 11 ביולי 2005, 14:03, כתבת: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2005, Diego Iastrubni wrote about "Re: Hebrew Support in Linux": > > Nadav, whats wrong with the approach of Mandrake/Mandriva? You choose the > > language at the install and you have hebrew all the way to your desktop > > (even booting messages are in hebrew). > > I have to admit I haven't seen a Mandrake installation in several years > (most people I know chose Fedora or Debian), so maybe I was completely > wrong. When you choose "Hebrew" during installation, does it also install > relevant packages like a Hebrew spell-checker, about this I am not sure. but my guess is "yes". > Hebrew "language pack" for > OpenOffice and Mozilla, not for Mozilla, but for OpenOffice.org yes. BTW, OpenOffice.org translation is useless. It's so buggy that it's better using the English UI.
> Hebrew fonts, and so on? Culmus, latest version. > When you run a Hebrew > installation, do most of the strings you see (assuming you don't use the > command line) are in Hebrew, or are still many of the applications and all in Hebrew, boot messages (in the bootsplash), mandrake tools, KDE, GNome. Menus are translated across desktops (all desktops share the same menu system). There are hacks for making urpmi "speak" full Hebrew in console. The Hebrew will be displayed "correctly". > documentation in English only? yes... :( > If the answer to all these questions is positive, then perhaps we're much > farther along than I guessed. If they are negative, then we're on the right > track but not quite at the end of the path. I lost you there... dies it qualify? or not? > > Also Debian (-> ubuntu) have this feature. > > I haven't seen anything even close in Debian (you can apt-get specific > Hebrew packages, but you have to know what to install and do it yourself), > so perhaps this is Ubuntu specific, or I haven't looked at Debian recently > enough. And since I have not actually seen Ubuntu running, I cannot comment > on this. Debian has a nice translation, but the UI is not reversed, so it seems weird. I also do not like DI, it's not as good as others. > By the way, there's a reason my wishlist talked about having Hebrew in a > *popular* distribution. People choose a distribution based on many factors; > Some like a distribution they've grown used to. Others use the distribution > that their school or company told them to use. Still others prefer a > specific distribution because of a certain feature. Therefore, if, say, > Fedora and Debian are the most popular distributions in the world (and I'm Fedora is not that popular among newbies. most of the fedora users are RedHat old timers. Fedora has a lot of post installation things to be done before it's usable. Also, no Hebrew support out of the box. Since you are a Fedora advocator, can you report this to their bugzilla? > not even sure this is true), then why should Hebrew support be good only on > Ubuntu and Mandrake? And this is even more true when you consider > special-purpose Hebrew distributions like Kazit and Kinneret, which are > great but are not the general-purpose distributions that most people > currently look for. There are not Hebrew/Israeli distribution. There was Kazit/Kazix and Kinneret, but they failed to reach a new developers which lead to dying of the projects. There were also Ivrix and Linbrew which did not even release a minimal beta. > > If you have problems with those distributions, report to them. I am sure > > they will fix the problems. > > My "wishlist" was a list of the missing things as I see them. Naturally, > I might have made mistakes and labeled existing things as "missing" simply > because I did not know about them. Anyway, there's not much point in > "reporting" a missing piece to a distribution, if it requires knowing > Hebrew to improve. Someone from our community will have to help them > in filling in those pieces. Nadav, hint: qemu can install those distros... -- diego, kde-il translation team, http://www.kde.org/il Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
