Before I answer Yedidyah's latest post on this subject, I'd like to ask if 
Bluetooth might be a solution to my Hotsync problem. The Zire 72 has built-in 
Bluetooth and I know MDK10.1 supports Bluetooth. I've Googled and found that 
connecting Palm to Linux via Bluetooth is do-able. My questions: 
1 - Is it worth trying?
2 - Does anyone have hands-on experience?
3 - What Bluetooth dongle do you reccomend with good Linux support?



On Friday 08 July 2005 21:50, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:

> I am very happy about your progress. I started feeling really bad
The only **good** thing about my progress is that it's proof this thing can 
work. But 2 successes out of about 20 tries is next to useless. And since 
then I've tried many more tries with no success :-(


> about this. For the record - I did see differences between the
> connection reliability of different palms connected to the same usb
> cable. Tungsten T3 was more problematic than Tungsten T and m130. But
> the problems are occasional, not systematic or as frequent as yours. I
I can accept **occasional** but this is ridiculous


> am also pretty sure it's a (partly) physical problem of the connection,
> not (only) a software one.
I doubt that. I've tried different USB plugs (back panel, front panel and via 
a Hub) and 2 different cables. I think I already wrote that I have no 
problems with my printer, scanner, web-cam, disk-on-key or mouse (all USB).


> There is no point in doing Ctrl-Z. If you want to shoot - shoot, don't
> talk. Ctrl-C.
Of course you're right - silly of me.


> I did not thoroughly read all your tests and results. I do have two
> points to make, some of them I already said in earlier posts.
> 1. There is no magic in /dev/pilot. The hotplug scripts choose the
Although on the tests I sent yesterday I tried /dev/pilot, I do know that this 
is only a pointer and might not point correctly. So I did do several test 
directly to the ttyUSB* devices and had no better results. In fact, it seems 
to me that /dev/pilot IS being correctly defined. Look at the following test:


----- before connecting the cable -------
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/pilot
ls: /dev/pilot: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU*
ls: /dev/ttyU*: No such file or directory

---- connect the cable  ------
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/pilot
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 12 Jul  9 21:14 /dev/pilot -> /dev/ttyUSB1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /dev/ttyU*
crw-rw----  1 solomon uucp 188, 0 Jul  9 21:14 /dev/ttyUSB0
crw-rw----  1 solomon uucp 188, 1 Jul  9 21:14 /dev/ttyUSB1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ pilot-xfer -p/dev/ttyUSB0 -l

   Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB0

   Please press the HotSync button now...

---- Ctrl-C to stop this  ------

[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ pilot-xfer -p/dev/ttyUSB1 -l

   Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1

   Please press the HotSync button now...
   Error accepting data on /dev/ttyUSB1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ pilot-xfer -p/dev/pilot -l

   Listening to port: /dev/pilot

   Please press the HotSync button now...
   Error accepting data on /dev/pilot

Notice that both /dev/pilot and /dev/ttyUSB1 give the data error message (not 
surprising since they're really the same device). I interpret this to mean 
that some attempt to communicate is being made and failing while the USB0 
device gets no reaction. Am I wrong?


After writing the above and (obviously) before sending this message, I 
succeeded once more - using /dev/pilot - so I do think /dev/pilot IS pointing 
to the correct port (ttyUSB1). But after the one success, again no luck :-(


> 2. The behaviour you describe is definitely different from what I see
> here (with all 3 devices) - none of them cause the creation of any
> /dev/ttyUSB device on connection, and all cause creation of 2 devices (0
> and 1 if it's the only device connected) when pressing hotsync in the
> palm. They differ in which of the two devices actually work.
again - I do think /dev/pilot is being created correctly, but I have tried all 
the other created devices.


> I never tried connecting through a hub, as far as I recall. I do not
> think a hub should matter, assuming it's otherwise working well.
I agree, but I tried various plugs (my box has 6) so I tried the hub too.


-- 
Shlomo Solomon
http://the-solomons.net
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