On Tuesday 31 May 2005 04:26 pm, Marc A. Volovic wrote:
> Aharon, hello.
>
> What you need to answer (us and yourself, I suspect) is whether what you
> have written is true.
>
> Now - I am not impugning your veracity. You probably think that what you
> wrote is actually true. However, I have frequently found that what you
> have described as a requirement is not what the users desire. What the
> users (not you, mind) actually want can be best translated as:
>
>                                         "WE WANT OUTLOOK!"

An extremely correct, valid and important point.

>
> Not calendaring, not appointment coord, not email client - outlook. If
> that is the case in your company, your options are sharply limited.
> Because, as you well know, soon the will be asking for "an intranet
> site" (but actually hoping for sharepoint) and "project management" (but
> actually meaning MS Project).... It is a slippery slope and, moreover,
> one that can only be successfully negotiated with the aid of company
> management.

Actually, I  was not required to install Outlook at all, but simply to supply 
a solution for appointment co-ordination and file sharing. I suggested, and 
was given permission to attempt a Linux-based solution. I tried, but failed, 
to bring up Kolab and PDC on Linux. I was working against a very short 
deadline, so I gave in, and brought in someone who brought up a Microsoft 
exchange server within several hours which apparently answers our needs. 
Since then, I have realized that this solution is very expensive (MS 
licenses), so I want to re-explore the possibility of a Linux-based solution 
- installed by someone more capable than me. I definitely have a reasonable 
level of management support - as long as I deliver the goods.

However, I do agree that this is a slippery slope, and besides doing a cost 
analysis of any offers I may receive, I will definitely be asking myself if I 
am shooting myself in the foot. Specifically, I will be asking myself (and 
others) what features are supplied by a Microsoft Server, and not available 
via a Linux server. For example, I have here a copy of Symantec Antivirus 
corporate Edition which apparently can be installed in a client/server 
configuration on a Microsoft Server, thereby significantly lowering 
administration headaches. Is there a similar Linux based solution ?

In any event, I / we have not yet made a final decision, and I the next step I 
would like to take is to see if there is anyone out there who can do the 
installation for me within a very short period of time, and if so, how much 
would that cost. I will then attempt to do a cost analysis to see if a Linux 
based solution might be worth looking into, even though there is a very real 
risk that somewhere down the line someone will come up with some feature that 
a Microsoft based solution provides, and that a Linux based solution does 
not. Also I will have to consider if administrating a Linus based solution 
will be more difficult (for me - a Linux person) than administrating a 
Microsoft based solution. 


>
> However, I should be glad to try helping you further.


Well, for a first step, I need to find someone willing and capable of doing 
the installation.

Thanks for the advice !


>
> Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
> >Hi.
> >
> >My company needed Microsoft Exchange/Domain Controller  functionality for
> >Windows users - shared files, appointment co-ordination,  logon from any
> >station, etc. I tried but failed to install Domain Controller, and kolab
> > on a Linux server, and eventually gave in to pressure and installed
> > Microsoft 2003 Server. I  am now looking at how much it will cost the
> > company for all the MS licenses needed to feed this beast, and I am more
> > convinced that the Linux solution should be given more of a chance.
> >
> >Is there anyone out there who would be willing to install a solution for
> > us for money,  very, very soon, and with definite success ?  We are
> > located in Jerusalem.
> >
> >TIA

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