On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 12:21:26PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > 5. Integrability - everything can be made to work together.
> 
> As far as people are concerned - Windows does a better job of this right now.
> A couple of days ago a fellow programmer told me "On Windows you just
> double-click and it works".
> Face it - "double click and it just works" is our "competition". There
> are distros
> which come close to this (Ubuntu? Suse?). When this becomes the rule then
> you can start talking again.

Not exactly, but it takes some convincing to show it's not exactly the
case.

* hardware tends to work, because the computer you buy tends to be
  pre-installed with it (read: someone has already spent some time
  installing drivers and such).

* You are generally expected to get the latest version of drivers from
  the vendor's site. The hardware installation ceremony is something
  that should be studied by anthropoligists.
 
E.g: When I wanted to use a new USB mouse on XP with a firend's laptop,
I put the mouse in. I pop-up window appeared. I had to click through a
number of dialogs, find a driver etc (and all of this with the lousy
touchpad as a pointer). In linux I just put in the mouse and it Just
Worked [tm]. The system didn't bother me with nonsense about new
hardware.


Another example: There is a win32 free software collection package. They
basically took cygwin's installer and adapted it to "normal" packages. I
forgot the name. I tried installing it on one windows system. It was
horrible: I had to click through scores of separate "Double Click and it 
Just Works[tm]"-type installers. No integration at all.

Compare that to cygwin where you select some packages, and tell the
installer to download and install, and the installer will basically
never nag you, except to ask you about the desktop icons.

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