looking at this with an opsimist(!) angle: 1. indeed, salary surveys do not make full sense. they usually cover entry-level and up to 5 years of experience (look at the various web sites). they are also not done in a statistical-meaningfull manner (none of them reveals the number of samples took, or how they were taken).
2. if someone makes a job offer with a given salary explicitly written in the job offer (which is rather rare to do, you must admit) - they automatically filter out the people that will apply for the job. 3. i have been working for low-paying companies and for high-paying companies. they all have their place, and it is every person's right to choose which of them to choose. consider the fact that the low-paying companies would give an oppotunity to talented but less experienced people, to gain experience. after that, those people would have the bases to move to the higher-paying companies. if all companies payed very high salaries, no one would hire fresh graduates, nor people with little experience. now, whether the salary sivan offered is high or low - he'll be able to judge after several weeks, based on who applies and whether he managed to hire someone suiteable for his needs or not. 4. finally, after the 'gold rush' ended, salaries did not equally sink all around the place. they simply have a much larger variance then before. that's something the surveys tend to miss, for various (statistical) reasons. 5. the employer's interest is to keep salaries in a hush-hush position, because, as we saw from the ministry of finance's yearly "high salary" expositions, exposing salaries makes them go higher over time. the employee's interest is to make salaries public, in order to know what realy is going on in the market, and to move the power to them, rather then to the employers. -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]