On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:45:23PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Listen, Geoff. I didn't notice Sivan mentioning the amount of sysadmins > on the team. From my knowledge, which is quite substantiated as you know, > the case is definetly not the one you stated above. Now, with all due respect > to your "2 years of business developing plans", I also have 34 years as a systems programmer, applications developer, independent consultant, etc. I was maintaning operating systems, providing customer support, etc long before you were born. I forgot that most of the people who have been on this list for any time are gone. Looks like it's just me, Oleg and Mark F. Volovic who are left. Harvey Stein departed for New York years ago, and Vadik seems to be MIA. I brought up the business plans experience becuase it is relevant, I am writing business plans for companies that are in the process of becoming. Telling them to hire one linux sysadmin for 18k a month would be a disaster. As for my attitude, yes it sucks by Israeli standards. But I'm not interested in working for a company that buys a five computer site license and refuses to update it (not in the budget) when then are 60 computers using it. Or likes to multiply microsoft licenses. Or use "free for home use: only software without paying for a license. Again poor planing, due to a bad business plan translated into a bad budget. > I think that Sivan is just a > "tiny" bit more experienced with the department in question, and has a pretty > good grasp of what is needed in order to run it properly. He did not communicate that very effectivly, in fact I thought that by reading his post he had no idea of what he was talking about, he was "posting for a friend". > He is offering a job. A good job. The 18k starting salary is definetly high > considering the location and job demands. Did not seem to be for me, why didn't he say? Two years ago in the middle of "the blight" I was offered more for less. I did not take it as it was in Herzalia Pituach and I live in Jerusalem and don't drive. I did not want to take a job with a 3 hour each way commute. I decided instead to start a company. It's been tough, as the Israeli VC market is too small for anyone building hardware, the pool of availble talent just is not here in support jobs, etc. > Good jobs are in need today, and people are looking for jobs. If you don't > have anything to contribute (as in offering Sivan someone - other than > yourself > - for this job), then you may take note that he didn't ask for your opinion > on the job, nor are your comments and "advice" constructive in any way. Well, actually they would be. If he was asking for my advice as to what to expect with such a job offer. If he has an an unusal job to offer, or a great benefits plan, or something else he should say it. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: 972-2-679-6896 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 VoIP (Email to schedule) Free World Dialup: 523178 Skype: gsmendelson ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
