solomon wrote:

On Monday 10 January 2005 20:05, Oded Arbel wrote:


On Monday, 10 January 2005 05:42, solomon wrote:


On a new installation of MDK10.1, SOME (but not all) non-KDE
applications run with completely unreadable fonts. For example,
j-pilot, usbview and LinNeighborhood are completely unusable because





most likely these applications use the GNOME font settings - IIRC at
least LinNeighborhood is a GTK+ application. try to set the fonts for
GNOME using gnome-font-properties (also available as
Menu->System->Configuration->GNOME->.. , at least under GNOME)
j-pilot, usbview and LinNeighborhood are completely unusable because



Although, as I wrote, I don't use GNOME, I opened a GNOME session and tried playing with the settings you recommended. But either I don't know enough about what to look for in GNOME or that's not the problem. In any case, it does seem strange to me that applications running on the KDE desktop would depend on GNOME font settings. Am I wrong? Also, as I wrote, these applications worked fine in MDK10.0 and I'm sure I didn't set up anything via the GNOME desktop.


You have to understand that even when you use KDE as your desktop and window manager, you can still run GNOME applications (or any other kind of application be it plain GTK+, plain QT, FLTK, Motif or whatnot), and these applications will not be magically converted to use the QT/KDE libraries but will use their own graphical toolkits and as a result their own look-and-feel. GNOME applications as a rule obey the gnome font settings just the same as KDE applications obey the KDE font settings even when run when GNOME is in session. to set the fonts for GNOME applications you don't really have to load GNOME, just run the program gnome-font-properties.

If you did a fresh install for 10.1, then its quite possible that your installation choices caused Mandrake to get different defaults for the GNOME fonts then what you got on 10.0.

BTW - this is a completely different problem, but something strange happened when I ran GNOME. I discovered that I could use the keyboard shortcut I choose at installation to switch between English and Hebrew. In KDE I can only switch languages using the KDE Keyboard tool from the KDE panel.

You can have KDE obey the settings you chose during installation (X settings) by disabling the builtin KDE keyboard mapping tool. regardless of the case I do suggest to install kkbswitch which is a neat helper application for KDE that uses the X keyboard settings.

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Oded

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