Tzafrir

Good points.

1. Providing the whole distro is ok but the individual components change
much faster than the kernel -
2. The level of integration and configuration, security tweaking most users
need is not in the core interest or competency of an applications developer
think about needing Zlib or GD for php and you need to recompile becuse
you're not using dynamic php modules
or think about getting hibernate to work with tomcat.
or think about having the most recent version of mysql instead of the old
versions that RH gives you

3. All these components have a myriad of different configuration files and
they all sit in different places and formats - the dependencies are not
always clear
- so imho there is great value in giving a user a single interface to manage
his stack

4. when you get a whole distro you are not getting any assurances as to
whether it will meet your application, security or performance needs -
the idea here is to have a stack with the latest most stable components that
has been tested on particular hardware

danny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tzafrir Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Stacks


> On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 12:59:13PM +0200, Danny Lieberman wrote:
> > open question to the list:
> >
> > I'm considering starting a community project that would create
ready-to-install "stacks" for Lamp, LamJ and Webapp clustering
> > the idea is a stack for end user customers which :
> >
> > 1. is certified (and/or bundled) for a particular distro  (rh 3 or caos)
>
> Why not provide the whole distro?
>
> Other than that, "easy to install" for caos/centos is simply a yum source.
>
> > 2. has tested performance on a well-defined benchmark on well-defined
hardware,
> > 3. has a single uniform Web installer and configurator  that lets a
> > simple minded admin add modules she/he needs
>
> Web installer? What's wrong with yum/apt/whatever ?
>
> Why would you need an installer on top of the distro's installer?
>
> > 4. installs in 10'
>
> A complete distro installs in just about 10 minutes. Downloaing takes
> some more.
>
> > 5. has an update mechanism (yum, openpkg...)
>
> One problematic point here: rpm/deb has no direct control over the data
> in databases.
>
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