On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:32:19PM +0200, Danny Lieberman (Barak) wrote:
> David, Didi
> 
> Guys - unless thre is a compelling need for Mosix - e.g. compute-intensive
> applications; there is no reason to go that way.

Care to tell why? David specifically talked about "better performance
and load balance". But even if this isn't a very important goal, why
not do it? Is it too much work? Does it cause damage (apart from running
stuff not where you thought they will run, which sometimes might not be
what you want, but that's the whole point of mosix)?

I _can_ tell you the main reason we do not use it here is that one of
the main uses for "distributed computing" here isn't simply to make
things run faster, that is - to use it, but also to check how much
faster they ran - that is, to develop/research this. Mosix can't easily
tell you such things. With a batch queue, you simply run you app on
1,2,4,8,16 machines, and are sure that you had n machines for yourself
each time, so that if e.g. 16 machines ran it 10 times faster than 1
you know it. With mosix all you know is that it probably made the best
job in allocating the resources, but not that you actually had 16
machines (assuming you simply ran 16 processes and let mosix migrate
them).

> 
> The classic solution for a small 10 PC network is  Samba and Pxes

I know about pxes, and it's indeed cool, if it fulfills your needs,
that is, if you want "thin clients". But from reading about it (I
didn't try it) it's not a solution if what you want is a full-fledged
Unix workstation, e.g. what you get when doing the default install of
most of the general-purpose distros.

> 
> 1) Samba for shared file system - way better manageability than nfs, you can
> manage users, shares centrally

But does it give all the semantics? I know samba supports "CIFS unix
extensions", and that smbfs (cifs?) starts supporting this, but never
tried it. Did anyone? Do we really have a decent alternative to NFS?

> 2) Since you are concerned with configuration management I would recommend
> PXES. (pxes.sourceforge.net )
> PXES is great - we have excellent experience with it for diskless
> workstations and you can use rdesktop
> if you need Windows Terminal Server integration.

Care to describe a bit what you do with this? Do the users work on the
machines or on a server (and the machines are mostly XTerminals)? What
if you want to add software?

> 
> Hope this helps
-- 
Didi


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