I use dual athlon MP 2400+ as my DB / Web server and im very happy.

The MotherBard is Gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P, 2 mirrored scsi ( hardware adaptec )

Rock Solid, never crashed. average uptime is 80 days ( kernel upgrade .... )

I also think the case / power supply is also very importent to servers and i
use TermalTake Ceaser.
7 fans and its still much more quiet then the Garbage 25$ cases.

and dont forget.. Debian Debian Debian :)

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnon Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: AMD (was re: Dist question.)


> We have here some dual-athlon MP computers, and we're having alot of
> troubles with them.
> My PC (2xMP-1800) hangs after more than 15 minutes of 200% CPU usage. I
> think it's because the CPU heats the memory modules.
> Another one, used as a server, suffered a lot of crashes until we
> changed the case to a monsterous-looking thermaltake, and now it
> functions fine, but glows in the dark :) . This one is a dual MP-2000.
>
> Both of the motherboards are tyan-tiger (i don't recall the exact
> model). One of them doesn't have thermal sensors at all(!!!), and the
> other one has thermal sensors, but linux has trouble reading those,
> requiring installing a buggy module. This module is responsible for
> several crashes on its own...
>
> I've heard that the newer AMD chips produce less heat, so they may be a
> good choice. But counting on my experience, you don't want to use the
> above mentioned CPUs AND mobos.
>
> Arnon
>
> Tal Achituv wrote:
>
> >1) I have to say that some of the biggest vendors in Israel are selling
junk motherboards with their AMD servers, We have here a dual Athlon MP
server, which had many problems, and it turned out to be the fault of the
BETA-BIOS firmware!!!
> >
> >Who in a sane mind would sell a mobo with BETA bios?
> >
> >Anyway - I must say I am very happy with the performance since the bios
update.
> >
> >2) regarding overheating - my AMD cpu's usually run even cooler than the
Intel equivalent, BUT - never remove a heatsink from an AMD... the sysadmin
here removed one for about 3 seconds, and the cpu core blew up (white smoke
and cracking noise) - this was with an Athlon-XP+2000
> >
> >>From my experience an Intel would just shut-down... anyone know if this
is a motherboard feature or a CPU feature?!
> >
> >Regards,
> >Tal.
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