On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 09:44:34PM +0300, Lior Kaplan wrote: > Hi List, > > I'm trying to decide where would I learn CS next year (=the one which > stats at October). I'm sure some of you are during their CS studies or > finished them recently. > > I'd like to hear what do you think about 3 places: > 1. Tel Aviv > 2. Bar Ilan > 3. Hebrew University. > > I'm talk about comparing the stuff, place, students, the material they > teach and so on. >
I finished in Tel Aviv CS+math so I am probably biased but from what I know, Hebrew university is very good but tends to be more theoretical Technion are also good but more practical Tel Aviv is a bit under them in quality, tends to the theoretical, although there enough technical courses to get a good programing background (if you are aiming at an M.A+ you should probably go more in the theoretical direction though). I don't know how the others are. I think haifa is the worst, BGU weren't considered very good when I started, but I heard they got better. don't know about the rest. As for personal impressions from Tel-Aviv (don't take it as a comparison as I don't know how the others are in this respect) Tel-Aviv university doesn't tend to treat the students very well (a general feeling a lot of students and staff get). I've heard good reports from people from Jerusalem and quite a few mixed ones from the Technion (some really like them, some can't stand them). The rest is Tel Aviv specific: They used to work mostly in Unix and later linux when I started several years ago, looking in the labs now it seems like its shifting more towards windows (as M.A I don't spend time there now but the general impression). All computers support dual boot with linux though. Actaully all lab computers reboot into linux automatically after some time of non-usage (30 min. day, 15 night according to system) and are used for distributed parallel computing. I am not sure what are the project requirements now, that would depend on the lecturer but I think you can get away for most stuff with only linux (Computer graphics may require windows, again depends). I don't think you can get away without knowing at least a little *nix programing and a little basic shell when finishing your degree (knowing how to turn on a computer is not a requirement though ;-) Its probably harder then in colleges, but with a right choice of courses and project partners you can get away with knowing almost no programing if that is what you want ;-) I have to admit that when I worked as a programmer I felt that a good college oriented at programing will make you a much better programmer then a university, but a lot of job places today seem to look at the degree as a filtering criterion, at least for entry level jobs (I guess experience will be more dominant once you get enough of it). The program with colleges is that the overall level seems to have a lot mote variation then universities. Avoid software engineering btw if your grades allow, at least in Tel Aviv the level is much lower then CS. > I'll be glade to hear you private experience. > > I'd also like to hear about the infrastructure of each university from > the system guys (didi, eli...) and from the students. Also about the > usage of Linux - if you can (well, now it's not off topic (-: ) > > Thanks. > > p.s. > Please don't respond with 'why not the Technion/BGU...'. > -- > > Regards, > > Lior Kaplan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.Guides.co.il > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]