On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 04:05:10PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: > ביום שני 24 נובמבר 2003, 15:40, נכתב על ידי Shachar Shemesh: > > Mozilla from "totally unusable for Hebrew" to "bearable, with no > > better alternative", at least as far as I'm concerned. > > KMail is the obvious alternative, but there are other Qt based mailers, all > are quite usable. > > > Personally, I think what kmail is doing is the worst possible. Kmail is > > "autodetecting" the directioness of the each paragraph based on the > > first character of that paragraph. > > This is not KMail's doing but the way Qt does text editing. the reason this > was done was lack of experience with the way Windows does BiDi editing and > too much reading of the infamous Unicode TR#9. > > > There are two problems with this, both pretty grave. > > > > A. There is no way to override this, in case I'm not happy. > > Qt 3.2 fixes this problem - you can change the inherent directionality of a > text buffer (currently with CTRL-SHIFT a-la windows. don't know if this is > configurable). everything that runs on top of Qt 3.2 will get this behavior. > > > B. Kmail keeps this information to itself. > > As it should. as long as you do text only messaging, the directionality of > text is implicit (and for lack of better standards should be detected using > the rules set in above mentioned document), and there is no way for KMail to > pass that information along to the recipient. as KMail currently does only > text messaging I don't consider this a problem. The recipient's MUA should > detect that the text is hebrew and render it accordingly.
KMail מזהה פסקאות בעברית? מי כן מזהה? For those without Hebrew support: those are just two Hebrew paragraph samples, with the one above will probably be mis-identified as it begins with English chars. BTW: in quoted text the paragraph layout is quite lost. > > I have never had problems sending hebrew email from KMail to other clients - > if the client supports hebrew properly then it will display it from right to > left. Again: with plain text the responsibility for identifying the direction lies on the reader -- Tzafrir Cohen +---------------------------+ http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/ |vim is a mutt's best friend| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +---------------------------+ ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
