Re: Version control (was: Re: What's wrong with this code?)

[Boaz Rymland]

I think this is exactly the price you "pay" when choosing these kind of 
tools, or more generally, doing in the "unix way":
You just take some overhead explicitly onto *your* head but you are left 
with very flexible, hence powerfull, set of tools, which can be combined 
in numerous ways to do just about any task you choose (in principle). 
you do not have *such* flexability, usually, in closed source (graphic?) 
application. this power lures in the command line land.

Its raw power, but roughness in usage, against fixed (closed) 
methods/ways to use, but the ease of that usage. Well, this trade off 
can be phrased in many ways, but the point mentioned in the mesasge I'm 
replying to is, IMHO, talks exactly on that trade off. Your preference 
might vary.

boaz.

Tal, Shachar wrote:

If only the small integratable single-minded tools were *easily*
integratable, I suspect Rational would have gone of business a few years
ago.
Shachar Tal
Verint Systems


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gilad Ben-Yossef [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Guy Teverovsky; Linux-IL mailing list
Cc: Tal, Shachar; 'Shachar Shemesh'
Subject: Re: Version control (was: Re: What's wrong with this code?)
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 04:22, Guy Teverovsky wrote:

   

CVS is not: version control mechanism which is content 
     

aware and action
   

driven. It lacks inline documentation features and code maintenance
(bugs, features) tracking...
     

Actually, CVS is a version control system and *that's it*. 
ClearCase is 
simply much more. It's like trying to compare Sendmail to Exchange. 
Exchange has a mail server inside but to call Exchange a mail 
server is 
ridiculous. (save me the jokes about the bugs in BOTH Exchange and 
sendmail, I've hearde them all. Hell, I invented a few of them.. :-)

   

Have I mentioned the wink-ing ? Suppose you have an app 
     

that compiles 5
   

hours and another developer has already done another build 
     

and parts of
   

the objects can be reused. As much as you might not like 
     

the product, it
   

saves a hell LOT of time as the version control mechanism 
     

will bring you
   

already compiled parts from the network.
Now consider an 6-7 hour build on a high-end workstation...
Well, I am starting to sound as a sales man, so I will stop here.
     

Which is available seperatly in Open Source world, as ccache. 
Which brings 
me to my next related topic:

Open Source software tends to create small flexible tools 
that do a single 
thing and do it well (e.g. CVS). You can combine several such 
tools to 
create a whole pacage that covers your needs (e.g. cvs + bugzilla + 
ccache).

Closed Source software tends to build big packages that try to do 
everything.

Some people prefer the flexability of multiple integratable 
single packets. 
Some people prefer the "full turnkey solution" of the closed 
source world.

I'd leave my personal opionion of it for now :-)

Gilad

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