On Saturday 30 August 2003 19:41, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> > I have Voodoo3 card on my Duron (700MHz,256MB) which is a very good 3D
> > card (for its age) and also has some 2D acceleration. moving any kind of
> > window - even simple single color boxes results in visible artifact
> > trails. redraw under normal load (few applications idling) is noticeable
> > (less then a second of delay) and under heavy load it is painstakingly
> > slow.
>
> This is very strange, because on my 500 MHz pentium, 128 MB memory, opaque
> window move is very smooth. It already quite smooth on a 100 MHz Pentium,
> as I remember. I don't know what you're doing "wrong" to cause these
> problems; I use the ctwm window manager and a 24 bit root window depth, if
> that matters.

I'm using KDE and GNOME and I have similar problems on P4s with NVidia cards - 
its not really about CPU or GPU power, I think its just X being slow.
I'll try running a simple WM on my P4 tomorrow and see if it maked a 
difference - I highly doubt it.

> Refresh of windows that were *behind* the moved window is bound to take
> time, 

Why ? I have the CPU power - I just need X to signal the applications on time 
and accept the redraws fast enough.

> I don't call such delayed refresh
> "artifacts", maybe you do and maybe that's the difference between the
> experiences we describe.

I call "artifacts" when I move a window and it leaves trails on the root (or 
desktop window) which then take time to clear.
I don't know about OS-X's or M$ backing store, but apparently they solved this 
issue because it does not occure or is far less noticeable on those systems.

-- 
Oded


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