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Subject: Re: OS-X rules, X sucks (Was: Forthcoming "Blitz" of Announcements)
Date: יום שישי, 29 באוגוסט 2003, 12:02
From: Idan Sofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Oded Arbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On יום שישי, 29 באוגוסט 2003, 11:30, you wrote:
> agreed - and to compete in the desktop market Linux has to do these things,
> whether in hardware of software , just fast enough so the users will not
> complain. **it doesn't**. opaque window moving, or even simple redraws take
> way to much on my not-so-antique Duron 700Mhz. every single non X solution
> I tried can do any graphics faster then X.

If I can remember correctly, opaque window moving cab be partly done in
hardware, the ability to quickly copy large sections of video ram(BitBlt?) is
provided by 2D accellrated graphic cards for years now, and XFree86 use this
facility if available.

In fact I just did a small test, on my P3 700 I can move this pixmap-themed
KMail window quite smoothly.

OTOH, On a P3 500 box with Win98, with an empty explorer window(about:blank),
moving the window works, but the redraws are much longer and sharp movements
leave noticeable ugly tails.

Both computers use low-end I81x built-in graphic adapters, so either XFree
 has better drivers, or X11 with all of it's flaws can do better job
 sometimes:-)

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