Gilboa Davara wrote on 2003-06-24:

> On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 14:40, Eli Billauer wrote:
> > Since the Linux for masses issue is up again, here's my little food for
> > thought:
> >
> > What's wrong with the situation as it is?
> >
> > What's wrong with Linux not being in every home? Why do we care if our
> > grandmother pays for her operating system?
> >
> > There are, of course, a few things that I would like to have changed.
> > For example:
> >
> > * M$ Word documents being a common way to distribute papers. But that's
> > wrong even in itself, since Word isn't even self-compatible across versions.
> > * Young computer fans not knowing about Linux, thus missing their
> > opportunity to get a good environment to learn from.
> > * Lack of drivers for some hardware.
> >
> > More, anyone? Can we be focused on the things we want changed, rather
> > than making other people miserable by convincing them to install an OS
> > that they can't handle?
> >
> Here's a couple.
>
> A. Development tools and workplaces:
> Low adaptation gives MS power to dictate *bad* (non)standards. MS-Word
> is not the real problem here; MFC, DirectX, Visual Basic, C#, etc are!
> As developers we are forced to use non standard closed tools and
> libraries that can be changed without notice by Microsoft. While for now
> most of us can avoid the problem, how much time do we have till we are
> forced to write MFC under C#? (Instead of C under Linux/posix?)
> You seem to forget the MS is not only targeting Linux... it is targeting
> the Open Source concept.
>
But open-source developers always choose their own tools.  We had
djgpp, now cygwin / mingw, python, perl...  If you are talking of
managers who know better than the developers, that's tough - but is
not specific to MS tools.  I don't see the threat here, developers are
the last people to use bad tools.

> B. Non standard shared Web-sites:
> At least half of the sites in Israel don't work right under Mozilla.
> (ynet, walla, etc) Why? cause they are using non-standard IE-only
> extensions. Christ, even the Linux forum in ynet cannot be read using
> Mozilla... I talked to the forum admin and nada... zilch.
>
That Haaretz site with the response uses visual hebrew, with
embarrassing line wrap.  I presume it was made with windows tools ;-).
Yep, the web standards situation is really bad in Israel.

> C. Windows only access to ISPs:
> Anyone who've were part of the cable modem tests will know what I mean.
> Some ISPs used l2tp instead of the "normal" pptp during the test. Small
> problem: there was no l2tp package back then. I talked to the ISP and
> there was no-one there that even knew what I the hell I was talking
> about! Luckily I found a l2tp source that I could adapt to my needs.
> Anyone here sees any sane ISP doing the same to Windows users?
>
True.  Putting our money with the few ISPs that have linux clue should
change this sooner or later.

> And a personal one:
> D. Games!!! God dangit! I want to play HL2 under Linux!
>
Loki, Loki, where are you?

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"Reading the documentation I felt like a kid in a toy shop."
-- Phil Thompson on Python's standard library

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