Christoph Bugel wrote on 2003-06-22:

> Unfortunately it seems to be impossible to buy a brand-name
> laptop that doesn't come with windows. This means that I am
> being forced, more or less, to pay a sum of money to
> microsoft.
>
Nasty :-(.

> I know that at least one person succeeded in getting his money
> back, from toshiba:
> http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html
>
> Personally I do not understand the law issues, so I don't know
> how good a case I  have if I would mail the retailer /
> manufacturer, and tell them that I am entitled to a refund,
> according to the microsoft EULA license agreement.

Perhaps you should ask them *before* you buy, telling them that if
they don't agree to that you will look for other retailers /
manufacturers.  That would pressure them more than if you pay first.

> Does anyone have an opinion on this matter?  Also, could it be that
> this situation is illegal, and that a court of law in Israel could
> *require* the retailers/manufacturers to let the customers buy a
> machine without an OS?
>
That would be nice but I doubt it.  After all, the manufacturer has
the right to sell whatever bundle of products it wants to you.  What
is more probably illegal is M$'s pressure on the manufacturer to do
so.  So you should not sue the manufacturer but M$.  IANAL.

-- 
Beni Cherniavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If I don't hack on it, who will?  And if I don't GPL it, what am I?
And why not now?

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