ok, i see that you understand what I sayd before I malied it... 
sorry...

> Again I agree, and that is why I fell in love with Linux. To extend my
> previous point -- if there was some kind of a Graphics Interface
> equivalent
> to pipes so people could combine GUI-ed together as easily as doing
> "find -name "whatever" | xargs cat ".
it called embeding and I think it sucks, and does not look good. Every ptogram
should have it's own window. Again this ismy opinion.

- diego

Quoting Alon Weinstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > > Care to list the alternative options? I can guess Lyx for document
> > > creation,
> > > GIMP for image manipulation, but that's where my list ends. What
> are
> > > the
> > > options to perform other common tasks:
> > >
> > > -- Email & Organizer (an only-email client is no replacement for
> Outlook
> > > or
> > > Evolution)
> > > -- Spreadsheet
> > > -- Presentations
> > > -- File and web-browsing (i.e Windows Explorer/Konquerer/Galleon)
> > >
> > > Those are the first things that pop to my head, I'm sure there are
> > > other
> > > areas in which most OSS alternatives are merely imitating MS's or
> any
> > > commercial vendor's products.
> >
> > then you failied to understand what is been talked about:
> > A file manager and a web browser and a help viewer are three
> > diferent programs.
> > So it should stay, and I realy would like to see khtml in
> > kdenetwork and not
> > kdebaase, if I would like a web browser I would install kdenetwork.
> 
> I agree. My intention was more tending towards a graphical file
> browser
> rather then a "files-web browser"
> 
> >
> > In kde3.2 kmail and korganizer will be one software. Again I dont
> > like this, and
> > I like things as thry are now. If I want to look at my meetings I
> > will not open
> > my mail progaram.
> 
> IMHO the ideal situation would be if people could easily integrate
> programs
> to one another, so you could use KMail as a stand-alone email program
> and I
> could integrate KMail & KOrganizer if I found it more productive.
> 
> >
> > Anyway, unix was not designed this way, one big program that does all.
> But
> > several programs which do one small thing good. This movement is
> > beeing copyied
> > from Microsoft Windows.
> >
> 
> Again I agree, and that is why I fell in love with Linux. To extend my
> previous point -- if there was some kind of a Graphics Interface
> equivalent
> to pipes so people could combine GUI-ed together as easily as doing
> "find -name "whatever" | xargs cat ".
> 
> > As to what you say:
> >
> > There are no good alternatives so we must use them, freedom is
> > lost again ,since
> > there is one really usable program. Sad but true.
> >
> 
> That is hardly what I said. On the contrary -- I genuinely asked for
> information about alternative applications with different approaches
> (and
> got some -- I just got started with Lyx and LaTeX, and never thought to
> use
> them for presentations until people suggested it here)
> so I, and others in my position who don't know a broad range of OSS
> software
> could use those applications.
> 
> Alon.
> 
> 


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