On Sun, Feb 09, 2003, Ran Zahor wrote about "Ynet Forums Linux Lack of support":
> As you probably know or heard, Ynet forums and site not supporting
> "Linux browsers", I am the forum manager of the Linux Community and I

Yes, I always wondered about that. Having a Linux forum in Ynet is similar
to holding meetings of the "Anti-Globalization Vegetarians Association"
in McDonald's... :)

Ynet itself, the newspaper site, works well with Mozilla, and I use it
frequently. It is just the forums part that doesn't work. In fact, for
this reason I never even saw what a Ynet forum looks like - and frankly,
I don't really care. There are plenty of other alternatives, both commercially
run (tapuz, etc.) and voluntarily run (like this list).

> As you know Ynet publish lots of articles regarding the GNU/Linux and
> the opensource and GNU movement, I think they lead the amount of PR they
> done, and Gal Mor that wrote most of the articles give a leveled picture
> of the Linux events and news. This is opposite to the actions of the
> technical person/department that run Ynet Internet section and
> development.

One of signs of a consumer society without monopolies and with healthy
competition is unbundling. Unbundling means that you are free to get your
news from one site (ynet.co.il) but your forums from other site - choosing
for each of these functions the best site.
As long as Ynet's forum system sucks and its news system is nice, I will
continue to use only one, and take the other "business" elsewhere.

> technical guy say things like "for 5% of the surfers community that use
> fro example Netscape it's not worth the effort" or "If you add Linux

It depends if it's really an effort. I did not look into Ynet's problem
with mozilla - maybe the changes that need to be made are relatively
simple?

> I think the "Newspaper of the Medina" should be available to all surfer,

Actually, it is. It's only the forums that don't work...

> getting this mails. At lease the answer I will get will not be : "I just
> got few replies from users ."

A business-person should know that "I just got a few complaints" is not
the best way to gauge satisfaction... In most kinds of businesses (which do
not have long-term attachments like banks, etc.) consumers will never
bother to complain but rather take their business elsewhere.

An off-topic example: I few years ago, Burger-King was my favorite fast-
food joint (in Israel). Then they did changes that pissed me off, and I
and a bunch of friends simply took our business (stomach, in this case)
elsewhere. I never bothered writing Burger King a letter of complaint, and
they never new that they did something wrong. These days the papers are
filled with stories of Burger-King (Israel) going bankrupt - and I have to
say I was not surprised.

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