I think you guys are looking at it from the wrong way it has nothing to do with linux, it has to do with standarts it doesn't matter if some weird browser can show the site, it has to do with official or big companies sites which serve the public should follow w3c standarts, then you can offer them a quick way to check to see what the problems are and a nice icon to put in the end which say they are w3c compatible. That simple no legal arguments no need to prove anything more than running it on the auto tester and show it sends back errors. I think pushing them to use standarts is the answer.
Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Adir Abraham wrote: > And how will that help us to achieve anything, if at all? "Black listing" > a site will most likely publish it (wait until your list is found in some > newspaper..), and will not help with reducing the problem. The opposite > is the truth - it may increase hateness, and mind-blocking. > > Do you think that the webmasters and the owners of the site will care? As long > as it brings them 90% of the population (sad, but true), they won't > (necessarily) care much about your list. > > Moreover, you will have to notice this: > > 1) You will have to prove that for a specific site - ANY browser, from ANY > version which exists over there in Linux cannot see the site properly. > > 2) You will need to update your list whenever there's a change. > Nevertheless, when there's a change (to Linux) it can be changed back > sometime (into not supporting Linux, intentionally or not) for some > reason, vice versa. > > 3) Vicious owners can sue you for some kind of "hotzaat diba", just > because you "black list" them. Nobody said that you wouldn't win (about it > not being "hotzaat diba"), but I am not sure that you would want that > headache. > > 4) You won't contribute eliminating the problem. I believe that I have > already mentioned that. > > Instead, you can do the following: > > 1) Be nice, and politely tell them that their site doesn't support Linux > (actually, it's not true. It doesn't support the browers which *you* have > *checked*, with your specific software and architecture installed). > > 2) Suggest to help them to make their site compatible with Linux. If they > are not going to care about this, you will have to do that free of charge. > Once again - your responsibility. And I am not sure that you would like to > do that free of charge. > > 3) Here is an idea: Create a group of "Windows-to-Linux technicians", > who will help in converting (and improving), both for free and for money (you > can even earn from it, if you do it the right way). Make this group > professional, and don't call them "missioners" or "revolutionists". Just > make a team which its purpose is to do that work, and that work only. > > 4) Don't black-list anybody. Nobody owes you anything and nobody has to > satisfy your OS you're working on (take this in a good spirit :). > > Love the problem.. don't hate it. > > Just something to think about. :) > > Adir. > > On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Yotam Medini wrote: > > > > > Let's establish a 'black list' of Israeli sites not supporting > > Linux browsers. A specific category (dark-black) could be for sites > > whose main category is about computers. > > > > Let me suggest a candidate: > > > > www.ksp.co.il > > > > -- yotam > > > > > > ================================================================= > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]