On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 01:02, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > > > Are you sure it was Motti? > > Yes, it was Motti.
I did not write Motti, I wrote a Sun representative and I wrote that on purpose. At any rate, it was him ;-) > It would be naive assume that just because Motti is using Windows on his > desktop that there is something wrong with his or Sun's committment to > Linux or Open Source. He is one of the main funders of the OpenOffice > Hebrew project and he is the one who volunteered new hardware to > linux.org.il. I see nothing "clueless" in using Windows. In fact, being a > professional salesman and market analyst, Motti has a far better > understanding of the market than most of us on this list. Jonathan, I know that Motti is a good guy. If you read my post you will see that I also mentioned the server donation that you wrote about. I am most geratful for that and told him so. Moreover, I did not try to say that using Windows is cluelessness. In fact, I wasn't talking about OSes at all - read again my post. The issue I was trying to make is quite different: I probably don't know much about marketing, surely not as Motti. I do know this: if a company tries to sell me a product (and this relates to both open Source and Propritery software), but will not use it themselves I would not buy from them. When I develop a product or program I make it a point to "eat my own dog food" as the saying goes. IMHO, if a sales person of a company does not use the product he is selling himself, he is doing a bad job of marketing it, regardless of how smrt or market aware he is. He sending a clear message that he does not believe in the product itself. This is the way I see it at least and of course everyone has the right to their own views :-) Adding to this was the fact that he was addressing a group set to organize a Linux users group. I think courtesy if nothing else would dictate offering to send the materiel in a format that Linux using peole could actually use. Yes, I know a lot of the people in the room don't use Linux on their desktop, nor do they care about open standarts. That is fine, but I DO use it and do care and if they want to include me and the likes of me, and my udnerstanding was that they do, they should respect that. *I* am not a "consumer", a "market" or an eye ball and I am not stupid either. I have rights and I plan to keep them. If they want to sell me something (and this IS what it's all about) they should respect my rights or I will go somewhere else. This, in a nut shell, is the whole deal. Luckily, they DO respect my rights and do care, and I apreciate it greatly. We just need to remind them of that sometimes, that's all :-) Gilad. > > - yba > > > > > > > > > The message that you forwarded to the list (and that, thanks God, was > > > not archived due to its size), was written by *Ilan*, and included all > > > that stuff (i.e. WORD file, Excel file, and the textual summary). > > > > > > So it's probably not Sun. > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE+J8PUUa4lXxqoBCERAjclAKDpSHNL7Cwjplql3Lfw/GIrv9DUqQCgjUYa > > dn3XWbr4xo07qDjk0jpvjHU= > > =FbNy > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > ================================To unsubscribe, send mail to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
