On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 10:57, Aviram Jenik wrote:
> Have there been any previous announcement that I've missed? What is this
> Linux Business Forum? Has it been discussed anywhere? What's it about?
> What is its purpose? Who will be attending?
> 
> If I'm the only one who doesn't have that info (that *is* possible; the
> S/N in this list has been catastrophic in the last week and I might have
> missed some posts) than I deserve to be "punished". But if not, don't
> you think it makes sense to post more than a cryptic e-mail with link to
> the same message on the web?


Yes, you did miss it: Shlomi posted the invetation to the previous meeting 
where this was announced on this list. This was just a reminder.

At any rate, this is what it is - it's a forum that's Sun, Oracle, 
People & Computers, IBM and a few other prominenet businesses and big orgs
 are trying to  organise. They had already one "get to know" meeting which
I and  a couple of others (Shlomi of course who got us there, Shachar, Doron
attanded as representatives of "the community".

They basically want to create a Linux Users Group which is sponsored
and geared to businesses, same as similar forums pretaining to Java
and Oracle. It seems that Linux is the new hype right now and they
are all trying to get on the bandwagon :-)

They mean very well, I presume, although sometimes they cluelessness can
be ... well, amusing. For example, during the first meeting I had to try 
convince  a Sun(!) representative to send the memos of the meeting in Sun's 
OpenOffice  format (or some other open format format at least) rather then
Microsoft's propritery format. In the end he sent it as both MS crap and
text, but not in the format his own company sponsors... go figure.

A less amusing example is that People &
Computers registered the emails of all people attended (collected in order
to be able to cordinate the next meeting) to a spam mailing list they run. 
Luckily, Doron Ofek (who also attanted) has talked with P&C and convinced
them that for the better of the cause they will NOT get the personal details
of people who wish to join this thing but rather they will be kept by Hamakor
and we will provide only aggregate statistics (how much regsitered etc) and
an *opt-in* mailing list to those who are interesting in recieving such 
annoucements.

On the plus side, Sun has decided to contribute an addtional server for Linux
stuff in Israel, which will aleviate the lack of space on the current IGLU
server and hopefully could also be used to allow non profit Linux sites like
whatsup or the Penguin (if they are interested of course!) to be hosted there
free of charge.

So, I think it's doubly important that clueless people here will show up
and contrinute. I think you and BeyondSecurity has a LOT to offer the forum..
In fact, how about youy taking on leading the Linux security forum or some
such? it's just a suggwestion, but I rather you do it then someone from
a company who claims their software is "unbreakable" :-)

Gilad.


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