On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 06:13, Guy Cohen wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 02:32:13AM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
> > > Latest kernel/pptp/pppd.
> > > no error messages, but pppd terminated before freeze. it happens to me
> > > on a regular besis.
> > 
> > Flames notwithstanding this list is more often helpful than not,
> > *provided* a question is asked to which an answer can be given. The
> > above is an example of how *not* to ask for help on linux-il.
> > 
> 
> Dear Oleg G.
> 
> [blah blah blah so much crap i can cry]
> 
Guy, I'm going to assume that you are simply ignorant as opposed to
being a regular member of the orifice set and answer you seriously. I
don't know why I am being so nice, must be the morning drugs kicking
in...

> And if i tell you what kernel version im using would you know
> how to solve this problem? let me think about it.... Nope you wouldn't.

Yes, he would. Or at least - there is a very good chance he would. Your
assumption that because *you* have no idea what to do means that it's
same for Oleg is false. If you give the *exact* version Oleg could have
installed the same version on a box of his own and attempt to duplicate
the problem. If he succeeded he could have install a kernel debugger and
trace what causes the malfunction and perhaps fix it. 

I've seen Oleg do this kind of job at least once and the question of
whether or not he would have done it this time is directly related to
your attitude and the respect you show for his effort and precious time.
Right now I don't think he will bother giving you the time of day and so
shall I.

> And I did not, In any place in my email said "I have a problem, please 
> help me" or anything similar. I simply mentioned there's a bug that 
> freeze the machine.
> 
> So spear me your too long too boring "Let there be guideline!" flame.
> 

We we're trying to be helpfull and simply requested from you the details
that we *needed in order to help you*. With this kind of attitude I
think we will 'spear' you all right - spare you from your misery and
send your posts hereafter to the forgotten limbo planes realms of our
kill files...

Gilad.

-- 
Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://benyossef.com

 "Geeks rock bands cool name #8192: RAID against the machine"


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