On Sunday 22 September 2002 18:03, Orr Dunkelman wrote:

hi,

looking for a volonteer from haifa, that intends to arrive to the insta party 
EARLY on wednsday, to drop by at Orr's on his\her way and pick up the 
papers....

anyone ?



> If someone will drop by, I'm willing to print and photocopy it.
> On Sun, 22
>
> Sep 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> > On Sunday 22 September 2002 17:52, you wrote:
> >
> > ok, since i live far from you (rehovot) i cant do t either.
> > can you do the printing, and we will get someone from haifa (you are from
> > haifa, right?) come and get them from you ?
> >
> > tal.
> >
> > > I have no idea when I'll come to the party, and I would not like to
> > > commit to be one of the early birds...
> > >
> > > I'd prefer someone else would do it... (sorry, I'm just in the middle
> > > of designing the welcome to linux + Haifa Installation party ads).
> > >
> > > On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 22 September 2002 17:34, Orr Dunkelman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > looks good.
> > > > are you in charge of printing and delivering those to the party ?
> > > >
> > > > if yes, you will have to show up early because we cannot (or, better
> > > > not) start without them.
> > > >
> > > > if not, please say so now so we can work something else out.
> > > >
> > > > tal.
> > > >
> > > > > It's a good day to start... ;)
> > > > > We usually put it together with the paper in which we ask for the
> > > > > computer details, cpu, mem, etc., as installers might need that
> > > > > info later, and keep asking the guy the same question is annoying.
> > > > >
> > > > > so it goes like this:
> > > > > Name __________
> > > > > Computer Name _____
> > > > > CPU, MEM, Ethernet/Modem/... ...
> > > > >
> > > > > I hereby announce that I'm aware to the possible damages that might
> > > > > occur, and that my data is backuped (or something like that)... I
> > > > > hereby remove any liablility from the installer(s) and the
> > > > > installation party group for any damage that my computer might
> > > > > suffer
> > > > > signature: _________
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday 22 September 2002 15:42, Orr Dunkelman wrote:
> > > > > > > I usually write it several days before the party.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > several = how many ?
> > > > > > we are 3 days before the party...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday 22 September 2002 11:19, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Amir Tal wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday 22 September 2002 10:08, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Someone should state the obvious:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Mandrake 9.0 has not yet been released. It has not been
> > > > > > > > > > > through enough testing. Not something I'd be happy to
> > > > > > > > > > > inflict on other people's computers.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If it weren't for the major features enhancements
> > > > > > > > > > > (maninly KDE3 and koffice 1.2) I would have thought
> > > > > > > > > > > that this would be a bad idea.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Just be prepared to handle all sort of obscure
> > > > > > > > > > > installation problems.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > i said this here a few days ago, andwill say again :
> > > > > > > > > > other then a legal document people should sign before we
> > > > > > > > > > are touching their computers (i understand that there's
> > > > > > > > > > not gonna be any) we should also inform people about beta
> > > > > > > > > > installations on their machines, and make sure that they
> > > > > > > > > > understand there is NO warenty what so ever to whats
> > > > > > > > > > being installed. bare in mind that MS users are used to
> > > > > > > > > > the idea that if there's some kind of a problem later on,
> > > > > > > > > > they have someone to call to for support. i saw a few
> > > > > > > > > > cases in the past where people saw it a obvious.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ask Orr Dunkelman about this. In his opinion (and I think
> > > > > > > > > he is right) signing such a document is not enough. It is a
> > > > > > > > > legal "cover-ass", but it does not clerify to people that
> > > > > > > > > you give no warantee, nor do you guarantee any support.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > better then nothing (at such short notice)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The community will try to help people. But there will
> > > > > > > > > always be people who will try to abuse the community's
> > > > > > > > > good-will (say: if someone walks to the instaparty and asks
> > > > > > > > > you to install a well-configured internet server).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And there is always a chance of something going wrong: the
> > > > > > > > > installers are volunteers. They are not here for the
> > > > > > > > > profit, and thus there is no easy way to cover damages. The
> > > > > > > > > installers will do their best to make the computers
> > > > > > > > > properly installed, but if the worst happen: then all they
> > > > > > > > > can say is "shit happens".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > right.
> > > > > > > > and if the computer owner did not sign anything that says we
> > > > > > > > re not responsible for damages, he can sue. and trust me,
> > > > > > > > some people will. this is what i am trying to aviod.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Orr, anything from previous events we can use ?


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