On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 02:22, Eli Marmor wrote:
> I thought that *ISP's problems*, which are raised only when Linux is on
> the other side, would interest the list. As it already happened in the
> past. The ISP's don't give a damn, because 99% of their users use
> Winodws. They just ask you whether you use the "haigan" of Bezeq or of
> them, and ask you what the error code is. And please don't tell them
> about CHAP and PAP. They've never heard such terms. Not to mention
> Linux.

It's all your fault :-)

If you are willing to suffer working with a big (read: bloated) ISP,
which is busy trying to be a big company on the Nasdaq with suite
wearing 'executive board' and also does a night shift as a phone company
BUT doesn't bother to serve your Linux needs and have a clueless
technical support (all of this is from your description, not mine) then
IMHO you should have switched ISPs long ago.

I'm sure you have good reasons for staying with them or for going with
someone like Barak. The question is isn't having a clueful ISP that
doesn't waste money on suits and TV commercials and instead makes sure
to support Linux and have cluefull technical support is a good enough
reason too?

Not trying to flame or anything, I just think that as a customer you
need to be dictating the rules (in a resnoable manner, of course) and if
they don't supply what you want go find someone else and also that if
enough of us Linxu users will do the same all of the ISP will have to
supoport us. "No Linux support? why didn't you say you don't want my
money to begin with..." :-)

Gilad.

-- 
Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://benyossef.com

"Money talks, bullshit walks and GNU awks."
  -- Shachar "Sun" Shemesh, debt collector for the GNU/Yakuza


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