My whole point is that installations as a general thing should be "easy" to use, especially OS's installations... Unless you want only gurus and techies to use the OS...
Currently I'm trying to help a newbie to install linux but he gets errors in the installation, that's what he get : hda:hewelt packard cd-writer plus 9300, Atapi cd\DvdRom Drive hdc: maxtor 6L040J2 ATA Disk drive ide2 : ports already in use skiping probe ide 0 : at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide 1 : -||- -||- -||- -||- -||- -||- -||- -||- -||- something... hdc : 78177792 sectors (40027 MB) w/1818Kib Cache Uniform Cdromdriver Revision 3.12 UDMA(66) ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide partitin check hdc : the cursor, this is when it stuck The good thing in linux is that the error messages are more than a secret code (most of times), unlike in windows where you get BSOD and an fbi-top-secret code that marks an error. Yes BSOD exists even in the installation... Thus win users don't know what to do: call a technician, call microsoft 'supprt', or reinstall win. The latter is the official way of an average win user to handle the problem. > If we care so much for those windows users, we will insall linux for them > (or hold their hand when installing) Why not ? For the first time it's fine ! but what if they want to show the OS to a friend and install it on his PC ? They will have to call you of course... His friend which let say is an average win user will see that the installation requires someone experienced to do it will dislike the OS and will prefer to stay with his "cool" win. -- <a href="http://www.rootshell.be/~eg";>Eliran G.</a> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tzafrir Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Eliran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Eliran wrote: > > > > > > A computer is a complecated system. When something is broken in your house > > > you can either fix it yourself (if you know how), ask a friend to fix it > > > for you, or call a shiputznik. > > > > > > Quite the same with computers. > > > > But installations *should* be a basic and easy to use thing, at least that > > what an average user expect. > > No. repeat after me: > > Reinstallation is not the solution > > What is needed is to convince users that there are more *efficient* > troubleshooting measures than reinstallation. > > A linux system should also be more managable than a windows system, > provided that the package management system is used properly. > > > > > > *Excuse Me*? > > > > > > You say a technitian is needed to install a "user-friendly" windows, but > > > you expect linux to be even simpler to install, by everybody. > > > > Some windows users (that I know) *don't* know how to install the OS. > > If we want these kind of users to use linux, we at least should make the > > installation > > easier. > > If we care so much for those windows users, we will insall linux for them > (or hold their hand when installing) > > If we care less about them, we will try to convince them to hire us to > hold their hand for the purpose of installation. > > Note: I don't mean to patronize here. I don't consider myself as a member > of some elitistic group who will grant knowledge to the rest of the people > according to my heart's desires. It is the simple consideration of > availability (I have only time for holding the hand of a number of users > users) and living (if people are willing to pay or that, and itbenefits > both sides, and generally everybody, then why not?) > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen /"\ > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign > Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail > http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ > > ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
