I don't understand the sense in your answer at all. I said that balanced capitalism (a symbiotic approach) produces medicines to everyone faster , and ultimately saves more lives for the develloped countries as well.
you reply was making an analouge to genocide in order to produce living space: an ultra-parasitic approach. basicly you used an ad-absurdum analogy to give destructive critics of the current situation: from this you imply we should not leave matters of life & death to greedy profiteers and I reply we should not leave matters of life and death to UNCONSTRAINED greedy profiteers. because if greedy profiteers can save lives, why NOT use them ? but put some constraints on them, make sure their greed will not be the ONLY driving force in your system, so that you'll have symbiosys instead of parasicity. so that, e.g., hiding drugs will be an offense for which the company will be fined, say, 20% of it's market worth and it's managers will go to jail for a long time. there are other such constraints you can put on capitalism, but just nationalizing every drug (which is what you suggest) is IMHO like spilling the baby with the water. Tzahi Fadida wrote: >Yeah I know, lets kill a few homeless guys to create a new WTC, hmm... on the other >hand, if we will >kill all Jews there would be enough space to build a city. Nah, lets just go with >Nigerians or some other >minority. "the cost may sometimes (as in your case) be very immoral". >Enough sarcasm. Its not just me, most countries are beginning to see the point I am >talking about, >and allowing third world countries to copy some of the drugs to get them by for now. >The software, copyright, patents are not just issues to talk about but do nothing or >talking up high >from ivory towers. There are lives at stake here, we should not leave it to the good >will of the drug >companies who enjoys benefits, and many returns other than these drugs. > >* - * - * >Tzahi Fadida >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Technion Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >My Cool Site: HTTP://WWW.My2Nis.Com >* - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * > >WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Guy Baruch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:09 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; linux-il >>Subject: Re: where has free software gone? (was Re: knesset >>meeting on open source) >> >> >>but taking exactly your example, if AIDS was not a disease affecting >>rich people (and , the horror, heterosexual white males at >>that) there would >> have been almost no AIDS research at all (in the academia as >>well), so that >> people would die not only for 5 more years but for 50. >> >>(and don't tell me the altruistic doctors of the world would have >>develloped >>the cure on their own, since the process of devellopment and QA of a >>cure is so work intensive it could not be done at present >>scales and speeds >> by volunteers or indipendant researchers) >> >>Greedy people can be used to the overwhole benefit at a cost. >>the cost may sometimes (as in your case) be very immoral, but unless >>you have a better method, we still need (balanced) greed. >> >>Tzahi Fadida wrote: >> >>>Lets see if I understand you correctly. A company created an >>> >>AIDS cocktail. now, because it was so expensive for them to >>create, they want a return in the short term, i.e.: 3-5 >>years. Taking your perspective, would also mean that 1 third >>from the third world can just stick their heads in the sand >> >>>and hope some miracle dust will cure them. This method is >>> >>ridiculous, and should be prohibited. Greedy >> >>>profiteers always existed throughout history enjoying the >>> >>suffering of the weak and helpless. >> >>>Thank you for clearing that out. >>> >>> >>-- >>-- regards >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------- >>-------------- >>+ Guy Baruch , Plasma Laboratory, Weizmann Institue. >>+ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>+ phone: 972-8-934-2211 >>+------------------------------------------------------------- >>-------------- >> >>If you've got something in your pocket that says, "In God We >>Trust" on it, >>please send it to your local church where it belongs, before >>it's too late! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with >the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command >echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- -- regards +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Guy Baruch , Plasma Laboratory, Weizmann Institue. + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + phone: 972-8-934-2211 +--------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you've got something in your pocket that says, "In God We Trust" on it, please send it to your local church where it belongs, before it's too late! ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
