Hi Again,

On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 12:41:11AM +0300, Barak Kaufman wrote:
> all the filter does is split the frequencies (low frequencies range goes to 
> teh phone , hish to the adsl). probably what happens is that the modem doesnt 
> recognise the "filtered" dialtone, what u can do is try to override the 
> dialtone detection in the modem with aATX1 init string.

Tried, didn't work. It did force the modem to try (well, anyway, at
least it took a few more seconds), but didn't connect.

I also tried an old ISA modem, that did manage to dial and give a
'CONNECT 2400' reply (but then hung - nevermind).
Does this mean I absolutely have a bad modem? Or maybe it's bezeq's
fault (and will they try to solve it if I complain)?

Might be related: When using the analog modem alone (no microfilter),
sometimes it failed to connect during the speed negociation. It never
refused to dial though. This is mentioned as a common problem with
PCTel modems, but it might simply be a common *manufacturing* problem,
that makes the modem very sensitive to small changes in the freqs, as
opposed to *driver* problem (even though I have no idea if this is a
common problem on windows too). On the other hand, after successful
connections, I constantly got very good behaviour (both stability
and speed).

Thanks anyway, I am close to giving up on this (unless someone has
a briliant idea).

> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry for being off-topic, but I am desperate. I asked whoever I know
> > who has adsl, computer and electric equipment stores, bezeq, STFW ...
> > And I have a suspicion that there are here some people with much better
> > knowledge than me about phones stuff.
> >
> > My problem: I can't use an analog modem with the microfilter bezeq
> > gave me for adsl, e.g. I can't send a fax while being connected to
> > adsl. When I try, the modem says 'NO DIALTONE'.
> >
> > What I know, up to now:
> >
> > I have a PCTel winmodem, which I already mentioned here, which works
> > under linux. I got with it a cable, one side RJ11 and the other BT
> > (after searching a lot, I found out this is the name of the connector
> > used in Israel and Europe. Short for British Telecom, who invented it).
> > Each side has four wire ends, and they are all connected, as
> > 1-4
> > 2-3
> > 3-2
> > 4-1.
> > This all worked well for a year.
> >
> > I also tried, on the same line, a regular phone, which also works.
> > BTW, the cable that came with the phone, which has, of course, the
> > same connectors, has different wiring: 1-3 4-2, and the modem doesn't
> > work with it (and the phone doesn't work with the modem's cable).
> >
> > I just talked with bezeq's support, and the guy there told me he has
> > mostly the same setup at home, and that the analog modem works for
> > hime through the microfilter. So it should work, but he had no idea
> > why it doesn't work for me or who I should ask.
> >
> > The microfilter I got from bezeq is MF601UK. google doesn't know about
> > it - the closest I found is MF601F, and the very detailed specs didn't
> > help me at all. I got from bezeq 3 microfilters, all same model, and
> > they work the same (that is, adsl works, phone works, analog modem
> > doesn't work).
> >
> > Does anyone here know better? Do I need a different cable? A different
> > modem? microfilter? Did others here try using analog modems through
> > "adsl microfilters"? Did it work? what models? What cables?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> >
> >     Didi
> >
> >
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> -- 
>       Barak Kaufman
> Customer Support Manager
> Oz-Tech Information Systems

        Didi


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