It require to limit yourself into certain email client
it require learning about encoding, sometimes exporting the e-mail
it require figuring what kind of bidi the specific client used 
don't forget gnome kde and mozilla and uses a diffrent kind of bidi 
alogarithim and more joining..


Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University 
Jerusalem Israel



On Fri, 17 May 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> On Fri, May 17, 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL 
>mailing lists?":
> > FWIW, I immediately delete hebrew postings. If it's important enough
> > to be said, it's important enough to be said in english.
> 
> If he knew of thisthread, Eli'ezer Ben-Yehuda (are you a relative of his? :))
> would be turning in his grave :(
> 
> I'm hope I'm not wasting my breath here, but all you need in order to read
> Hebrew (besides *knowing* the language, of course, which indeed might be
> a problem) is my bidiv program which can convert any iso8859-8-i, win1255
> or utf8 email into visual iso8859-8 which you could view with less, more,
> nvi, cat, or whatever you're so inclined. Bidiv (unlike the "fribidi" binary)
> is fully automatic, and tries to guess which Hebrew encoding it is seeing,
> so someone who doesn't need to read other languages (say, russian encodings)
> can even use "bidiv | less" as his default mail pager. That's what I do.
> A non-released version of bidiv (tell me if you're interested) can also
> automatically handle the case where your output should be utf8, not iso8858-8.
> 
> So reading Hebrew email is easy. Writing is somewhat harder if you *insist*
> on using an Editor with no Hebrew support, which is somewhat like insisting
> that the C language sucks because "f77" doesn't compile it and f77 is the
> compiler you know and prefer. If you want to write an Hebrew message, use
> vim and not nvi (or write a patch to nvi yourself). How difficult is that?
> Don't give me the "but I switched!"bull - they are not that different, and
> it wouldn't kill you to use vim once in a blue moon when you want to write
> Hebrew emails.
> 
> I occasionally write and read Hebrew emails, and it's not hard. I still
> prefer to read and write in English, though, so I'd personally prefer to
> continue writing on the English list (but I don't mind reading both).
> 
> As a sidenote, one of the best ways to get people to work on Hebrew support
> is to "make" them need to use it, see how inconvenient it is and want to fix
> it. This is how/why I worked on my version of the LaTeX 2.09 Hebrew support,
> for example - the Technion forced me to write my MSc thesis in Hebrew (the
> rules have since changed, and people can write in English now).
> 
> Anyway, to make myself clear: I'll vote for an additional Hebrew list,
> but for keeping also the existing English list.
> 
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