I think you should cool it as well, and if you don't want to converse 
with me, i suggest you simply don't reply to my posts. A mailing list 
is STILL composed out of personal postings, which people reply to. So 
if you reply to my words, you reply to me. And whatever you say, 
bringing in "jewish tradition" into the discussion is simply 
laughable. However eloquently you put it.
And with this, I end this ridiculous dialog.



On Friday 17 May 2002 22:56, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amir Sela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:17 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: Linux-IL Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: official hebrew in Linux-IL mailing lists?
> >
> > On Friday 17 May 2002 19:50, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
> > > I don't believe that the Hebrew language is connected to being
> > > a newbie or not. I do believe however that it is connected to
> > > the size of some individuals ego. I believe nadav mentioned
> > > that until recently the technion made them use Hebrew in their
> > > thesis. Do you actually clame that these people until recently
> > > were all newbies? I
> >
> > What in the WORLD does that have to do with the fact that newbies
> > usually use hebrew ? stop trying to discredit people just for the
>
> exactly my point, what in the world.
>
> > sake of discrediting. All I said is that from my experience, the
>
> i did not discredit anyone, i did not even mentioned your name, if
> you feel offended, than maybe it concern you. you will be the judge
> of that. i am not your teacher.
>
> > newbies usually like to use hebrew, which is true. the fact the
> > technion forces people to use english has no bearing whatsoever
> > on what i said.
>
> I think it does, in the right context, which you obviously shredded
> brutaly.
>
> > > think that stating that the use of Hebrew in this mailing list
> > > will make you a newbie, is just the stereotypes people have
> > > long used to constrain other people to their habits and their
> > > reluctance to accept progress.
> >
> > Emm With all due respect, I don't think you you even heard my
> > opinion regarding hebrew IN LINUX-IL. I for one, wouldn't mind it
> > one bit. All I was suggesting saying is that a second mailing
> > list, supporting hebrew, will be a solution acceptable to ALL OF
> > US. I really dont understand where is this belligerence coming
> > from.
>
> no belligerence, dude. never mentioned you personally.
>
> > > Whether Hebrew is appropriate from a practical sense like
> > > non-Hebrew speaking members, or people not being able to view
> > > Hebrew messages (I don't believe writing Hebrew should be
> > > mandatory since many words cannot be translated to English),
> > > that's for the list community to decide.
> > >
> > > My standpoint, is that people should be allowed to write both
> > > English and Hebrew on the list. But only if all the members
> > > will agree to that.
> > > It is a Jewish tradition to accept the minority view on these
> > > matters, so if there are Iranian or other foreign individuals
> > > that would object, I believe we should respect their view in
> > > spite of my or the majority sentiment.
> >
> > Jewish Traditions ? Huh ? I think you're taking this from the
> > CORRECT context of simpleness and portability between the list's
> > users onto remote and unneccesary philosophic areas.
>
> I think that if nadav and moshe talk about eliezer ben-yehuda,
> others can carry on the same wave, so as you can see i never took
> you anywhere. besides, its not that i was bassing my reasoning on
> that sentence. You took that part and twisted it, obviously to
> distract the readers from the main point
>
> > This really isn't complicated. All I said is that a second list
> > permitting hebrew might be the simplest solution. Again, I don't
> > see why is this complicated, or why does it turn me into a bigot
> > to KNOW that new users prefer to ask questions in hebrew.
>
> never called u a bigot. again u twisted my email to your line of
> thought which you already decided that i "came here to destroy
> you", but i can assure you i am certainly not slim shady. so cool
> off. this is a discussion, not a jabbing contest.
>
> > Amir.
>
> Tzahi :).
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