On Fri, 17 May 2002, "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * mutt > > Works well with Hebrew if you use an appropriate editor (such as vim) > and a viewer (such as bidiv). > Note that editing Hebrew with Vim is a bit different than using a bidi > editor, since you have to manually switch direction yourself (usually with > a single key) while editing. So, basically, what you're saying is that one has to switch editor and a pager (the later not provided by my operating system, Debian Sid, and the former one which I stopped using a long time ago after the undo editing annoyedme) to have the pleasure of viewing/edting Hebrew. Yeah, that makes sense. > Heck, with Pine there's the same problem/solution: the visual-order Hebrew > pine should not be used because the standard it considers Hebrew never > caught on. You should only write in logical-order Hebrew, iso-8859-8-i or > utf8. Pine is irrelevant, as it is not free software. People using non-free software should not expect to be coddled here. > > * nvi -- not supporting > > So use vim... No, I want to use nvi. I switched. I see no reason to switch back. > > * nano -- not supporting > > * joe -- not supporting > > * jed -- not supporting) > > Do you really *have* to use those to edit Hebrew emails? "Have"? No, I can also type the bits directly into the CPU, I guess. Some people do use these editors. > > If you do use Hebrew, which encoding would you use? Win-1255? ISO-8859-8? > > UTF-8? > > It doesn't matter, all utilities should be able to handle both standard > encodings (Win-1255 isn't a standard; don't use it). So we won't be able to read people who send Hebrew e-mail from MS Outlook. *That* will make the instructions of which language to use crystal clear, won't it? > How about creating a Hebrew mailing list in addition to this one, and > see how it picks up? Go ahead. Me, I think if you really wanted to make Hebrew you could supply patches for all programs supported above. Until all software will support bidi natively (and yes, bash has to do that for pms/mh users) then Hebrew e-mail will still remain a non-option in GNU. ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
