On Thursday 28 March 2002 21:11, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > yes, gnome and kde are going to be ported. But I have been looking for that > moment for a long time, here is what I think: > > kde guys do the massive update all together, which is nice for high > versions, but for low versions I like the gnome policy of: update when you > please, what way you can update some programs while leaving older programs > (less to d/l). This is a problem with, high versions changes, in which you > need all your working software to be updated as well. In kde, the guys do > supply most of our needs. Gnome, is more flexible, and while most of the > programs available for gnome, are "gnome" programs, they are not developed > directly by gnome. Among those programs are: xmms (i did not see any > comment on gtk2 on the main page), xchat (the 2 is in progress), abiword > (soon to reach v1 in gtk1. gtk2 in two years or so...). when kde updates > from 3.0.0 to 3.0.1m you will need to update qt, kdelibs, kdebase, and what > not... notice that > kdebase-nsplugins, did not change a lot since 2.0, but an update is needed, > and this is only a small example.
Huh????? 1. kdebase-nsplugin has been modifed - up to kde 2.2.2 you could have run an nsplugin which would be sized up to 300x300, and it crashed a lot. Trust me - it has been changed, and it works very well now. Also the crossover plugin relation with the kde-nsplugin has been fixed. 2. QT is NOT as GTK as some of the people might think - it's MUCH much bigger (database support,printer support, and tons of stuff which is simply not inside GTK) - that why you need to update it - bugs do happend to such a beast, and they're being fixed. 3. Try to run Ximian gnome and update from 1.4.0 to 1.4.1 - the download touched more then 50% of the packages. Where do you get your info from? KDE & GNOME both are having fixes in the various packages. > kde3 port is easly done, but I not know the status of gnome2/gtk2 porting, > is it hard? there are many 3rd party application which use gtk (it is one > of the best lgpl toolkits available), and would like to know it they will > be ported to gtk 2 (linuxconf for example). LinuxConf is not part of GNOME 2 (or GNOME) - Ximian got a competing package called Ximian setup tools (not sure about the name), so I think it will take a long time before this happend. Of course - I encourage you to use WebMin ;) and the reason why redhat and > mandrake did not include gtk2/gnome2 in theire distributions is that both > of those distributions use gtk for configuration of the desktop, and this > will lead to problems. A gtk2 version is a higher version update (rh 8.0, > mdk 9.0). This is MHO. Correct. GNOME 2 will appear on both major versions (RH 8.0 which would appear around october) and Mandrake 9 (also at the same time frame). SuSE is not very commited to GNOME, so they probably will stick it to 8.1. Thanks, Hetz ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
