Settled indeed.
I believe nadav said it exactly right.

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Tzahi Fadida
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aviram Jenik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: 'linux-il'
> Subject: OT: Hacker challenge closed
> 
> 
> Tzahi,
> 
> I'm flattered that you give me my own web site to check out 
> (SecuriTeam.com,
> operated and owned by Beyond Security) ;-)
> 
> I didn't mean to say you were not a serious person (I really 
> don't know you,
> so I can't say that), I just meant to say that what you wrote 
> does not come
> out right.
> 
> Lets just say you didn't mean to write:
> "there isn't a windows on the planet that can't be hacked in", but rather
> "Windows is usually much less secure than Linux" or something like that -
> which is perhaps arguable but definitely a valid argument (Nadav gave a
> detailed and very correct explanation of why the first statement simply
> isn't correct. The second statement is simply a matter of opinion).
> 
> The reason I'm emphasizing this is not to see who's finger is longest, but
> to keep the newbies from the exaggerating statements such as "Windows is
> insecure", "Linux is safe", "our database is unbreakable" and "I did not
> have sexual relations with that woman". Please don't write that, 
> it doesn't
> give you a lot of credibility, it doesn't help you spread the awareness to
> security, which I assume is that you're trying to do.
> 
> - Aviram
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tzahi Fadida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Aviram Jenik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'linux-il'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:10 PM
> Subject: RE: I like a good challenge [was: sendmail relay problem]
> 
> 
> First, i resent the implication that i am a cracker.
> Second, i don't need to, there are others that could spare 5 sec 
> to do that.
> cracking is for children who don't have anything else to do.
> If u mean hacking, then i can refer u to other mailing lists and articles
> that could explain to u the problems of using microsoft windows.
> check out:
> securityfocus.com
> securiteam.com
> sans.org
> cert.org
> bugtraq mailing list
> ciac
> x-force
> ntbugtraq
> linux-security
> and if course the very active "microsoft security alerts", lol.
> 
> if u wish to see other refernces, contract me personaly.
> as u will see the ratio of windows/linux security holes and their sevirity
> is very high.
> 
> enjoy.
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> Tzahi Fadida
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> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aviram Jenik
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:55 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: 'linux-il'
> > Subject: Re: I like a good challenge [was: sendmail relay problem]
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > easily. exploit one of the gazillion holes in explorer, spoof 
> ips on ur
> > > network, sniff non-encrypted or low encrypted windows
> > passwords, send u a
> > >greeting card with sub7 in it, so there u r.
> >
> > Ok, I love a good challenge. Lets see if you can break into the one I'm
> > using now.
> >
> > BTW: Why didn't you break into the Windows XP server when
> > Microsoft offered
> > the challenge? (being the fearless cracker that you are)
> >
> > > Now am I not serious?
> >
> > I don't know, I guess we'll wait see, won't we?
> >
> > - Aviram
> >
> >
> >
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